New Zealand - The right to leave our country

**avgas** · 11th July 2008, 11:11

Originally Posted by Badjelly

This whole "respect" thing is a minefield. Apparently, if someone tells me he/she believes in the Flying Spaghetti Monster and I say "Yeah sure" and walk away (which is probably what I would do) then I am respecting that person's beliefs. But if I stop and say that I see no reason to believe in the FSM and, furthermore, that I find it unreasonable to believe (as this person does) that the FSM is simultaneously omnipotent, omniscient and benevolent, but also capricious and frequently cruel, then that is showing disrespect. I think it's the other way round. Disagreeing with someone can be a sign of respect; patting them on the head and saying "Yeah sure" isn't.

Hmmm depends - does their religion require them no to show you their face? or respect your religious beliefs? do they force their Flying Spaghettin Monster masters beliefs upon you?

You must remember there is religeon, and their is being an asshole

**James Deuce** · 11th July 2008, 11:13

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...gious&page=686

**avgas** · 11th July 2008, 11:21

Originally Posted by Grahameeboy

Why, you respect whether or not you agree with their beliefs

Use the 3 year old rule:
- what a 3 year old does not know, does not hurt them.
- what a 3 year old does not know they are doing wrong, they do not get in trouble.
- the less you understand, the more you know.

Only a religious person can respect or disrespect a religion, so with that eliminated it is only personal issues that make the choice of which way they turn.
I find it hard to believe that religions can't co-exist together, but i can guarantee that people cant co-exist together. Blaming religion for all your faults is the oldest excuse in the books.
Always i am right you are wrong - if you and i were 3 years old, we are both wrong.

**avgas** · 11th July 2008, 11:24

Originally Posted by James Deuce

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...gious&page=686

haha the tags in that good old thread crack me up.........i miss Zed

**Grahameeboy** · 11th July 2008, 13:03

Originally Posted by avgas

Use the 3 year old rule:
- what a 3 year old does not know, does not hurt them.
- what a 3 year old does not know they are doing wrong, they do not get in trouble.
- the less you understand, the more you know.

Only a religious person can respect or disrespect a religion, so with that eliminated it is only personal issues that make the choice of which way they turn.
I find it hard to believe that religions can't co-exist together, but i can guarantee that people cant co-exist together. Blaming religion for all your faults is the oldest excuse in the books.
Always i am right you are wrong - if you and i were 3 years old, we are both wrong.

That is a very generalised view.

As a Christian we respect other religions and generally co-exist.

Who is blaming religion?

**jrandom** · 11th July 2008, 13:05

Originally Posted by Grahameeboy

As a Christian we respect other religions and generally co-exist.

*falls off chair laughing*

**Grahameeboy** · 11th July 2008, 13:11

Originally Posted by jrandom

*falls off chair laughing*

well at least you are doing something Sir

**jrandom** · 11th July 2008, 13:12

Originally Posted by Grahameeboy

well at least you are doing something Sir

Does the lack of a meaningful response to my levity indicate that you agree that your statement was laughable?

**Grahameeboy** · 11th July 2008, 13:44

Originally Posted by jrandom

Does the lack of a meaningful response to my levity indicate that you agree that your statement was laughable?

No....it may have been laughable to you and not to others...that's life...

One does not always have to come up with a meaningful response.......ask the Borg