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    Quote Originally Posted by Number One View Post
    Cheeky shit

    Nice? hmmm well they hold up a cocktail dress well enough

    This threads useless without pix.

    Now how many of you spookily knew ,this old line would be posted eh?,

    Well your not bloody psychic, it always follows a mention of boobies, it's the law.
    Oh bugger

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    Quote Originally Posted by Number One View Post
    She told me specific and accurate stuff about hubby, my parents, my work, grandparents, my AND hubbies health, that I was 'very newly' pregnant (only 6 weeks at the time) WITH a boy (correct) AND that I'd had a miscarraige earlier in the year WHICH I had not told anyone about.
    May I ask if there were "innacurate" areas? A ratio of "correct stuff" Vs "innacurate info" given?
    (hope that makes sense!)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swoop View Post
    May I ask if there were "innacurate" areas? A ratio of "correct stuff" Vs "innacurate info" given?
    (hope that makes sense!)
    You may ask and I may decline.

    To be honest I've had enough of this thread and by being the most out there person on it to have shared an experience (and a rather personal and emotional one at that) I'm a little tired of being referred to as one of that group who is considered (according to many posters on here) 'lacking in reason and logic, mentally ill, deluded and gullible'.

    I actually credit myself with a decent amound of intelligence EQ & IQ, have pretty good analytical thinking and reasoning skills (rather important for my career) and given the experience and personal content of it I am not willing to say anymore on here.

    BTW - not meaning to come across as if I am having a go at you or anyone else specifically just not putting myself out there again in this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Number One View Post
    You may ask and I may decline.
    My apologies.
    I was asking in a serious manner.
    I wondered whether there was a lot of information that the lady presented to you, and we were given the highlights.
    I am in two minds regarding the programme and am not discounting anything, just wanting your input since you have been able to speak with clearer (1st hand) experience.

    If I went along to a session and was told nothing but facts, from someone who had not known me, I would be quite astonished.
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    Police meet parents after psychics probe son's death
    9:13AM Thursday July 10, 2008

    Police will meet the parents of South Otago teenager Blake Stott in the wake of a television show that used psychics to shed light on the mystery of their son's death.

    Mr Stott died in a fire in his car in a layby in 2006 and the cause of the fire was never identified.

    In an episode of the TVNZ show Sensing Murder on Tuesday, psychics Kelvin Cruickshank and Sue Nicholson said Mr Stott had driven his car, which was his pride and joy, to a layby 3km from Owaka, south of Balclutha, so it would be safe.

    He was a responsible young man who had saved hard to buy the car and was a non-smoker.

    Mr Stott was asleep in the driver's seat of the car when two people drove up and as a practical joke threw a cigarette butt, match or lighter in the back seat of the car, the psychics said.

    The psychics gave a detailed description of the two men and their vehicles but stopped short of publicly naming them.

    The psychics said there was a third person who knew the details of Mr Stott's death, possibly someone who one of the men had confided in.

    Dunedin and Clutha area commander Inspector Dave Campbell said today that he would meet with Mr Stott's parents and as with any case police would follow up if there was new evidence.

    The cause of the fire had not been identified in investigations at the time but this was not unusual in cases of severe fires.

    There were no indication in the inquiry at the time that any other party was involved, Mr Campbell said.

    "As with anything if anyone comes with new information then we will look it.

    "At the end of the day is a psychic's opinion evidence?"


    Mr Stott's mother, Adraian Stott, said the family had gone to the show's psychics for answers, not publicity, the Southland Times reported.

    The show traced the 19-year-old's last steps before his death on June 11, 2006.

    Mrs Stott said she and the family did not want to comment further on their decision to go to the television show but she said the psychics had provided the answers she had been looking for.

    "They were very sensitive to us. This is still hard two years later we're still very fragile."

    - NZPA

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swoop View Post
    ...I wondered whether there was a lot of information that the lady presented to you, and we were given the highlights.
    I am in two minds regarding the programme and am not discounting anything,...
    If I went along to a session and was told nothing but facts, from someone who had not known me, I would be quite astonished.
    (disclaimer: this is in no way a personal poke at "Number One")

    Investigating "cold reading" techniques pulls up some curiously interesting thingg about people (as in the human condition).

    The most interesting thing I found was watching hidden video camera sessions of people visiting "psychics". In every single case the person who visited the "psychic" swore black & blue that they did not give any information to the "psychic" and stayed silent the entire time. This was an honest answer, they were not intending to deceive. However, it wasn't a truthful answer - in each of these given cases the subject did in fact either give the psychic visual clues, or did in some way assist the psychic with a response. In one case the man actually spoke candidly to the psychic, then proceeded to tell the interviewer afterwards that he did not say a single thing!

    The same thing is done during an interrogation process. You can see it in action if you watch the show "S.A.S.: Are you tought enough" on UK TV. The interrogatees who 'folded' often told information freely to the interrogators. when questioned later (after rest and food) they would deny ever handing over information, in most cases they did not recall telling the interrogators the information they did tell, even when the transcript was read back to them.

    Derren Brown also knows how to cold read, he isn't a "psychic", but has quite skillfully performed the exact same acts on people on several of his shows. As much as people like to believe in the spirit world, in these cases sadly it's just someone who's really good at reading people's body language taking advantage.

    If anyone ever participates in one, listen for key things during a the session. Key probes are things like:

    "I'm hearing a name...mmm, meee, (watching for postive reinforcement) muuu, mike?"
    if the persons responds in the negative:
    "this isn't necessarily the person you know, it may be someone they are trying to get you to communicate with, or someone they knew" (the cop out)
    reset and ask new questions from here...

    Otherwise an affirmative action will lead on to more things about the person you know "Mike".

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    Quote Originally Posted by martybabe View Post
    This threads useless without pix.
    naughty gentleman biker indeed Anyway don't make me update my avataaaarrrgh and pop into your profile for another visit MR

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    Quote Originally Posted by Number One View Post
    Cheeky shit

    Nice? hmmm well they hold up a cocktail dress well enough
    Pfft! I can do that with my whanger!!

    But back on topic, as you might expect Sensing Murder was the topic at work tonight, much hilarity by all - and much amazement at how much real evidence was not mentioned/edited out - and at the stuff the psychics got wrong that nobody took them to task about.

    It was almost like two different events but at the same time/location

    Still, was kinda entertaining, even if not as good as Ren & Stimpy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scumdog View Post
    Pfft! I can do that with my whanger!!

    But back on topic, as you might expect Sensing Murder was the topic at work tonight, much hilarity by all - and much amazement at how much real evidence was not mentioned/edited out - and at the stuff the psychics got wrong that nobody took them to task about.

    It was almost like two different events but at the same time/location

    Still, was kinda entertaining, even if not as good as Ren & Stimpy.
    Ren & Stimpy's not real I reckon!
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    WTF is with that tag?! Who says hawt hawt? Must have me confused with someone who really is hawt!

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    Quote Originally Posted by idb View Post
    Ren & Stimpy's not real I reckon!

    I thought it was the animated version of Schollum and Rickards.

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    An interesting article written by a journo
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/4623154a10.html
    Got some good points, especially the one which says " to date not 1 murder has been solved" says it all really.
    Don't believe the hype

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    Quote Originally Posted by rottiguy View Post
    An interesting article written by a journo
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/4623154a10.html
    Got some good points, especially the one which says " to date not 1 murder has been solved" says it all really.
    Don't believe the hype
    Sadly though in this latest case they may well have tarnished the lives of people by pointing the finger at them....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gubb View Post
    I used to work with a woman who appeared on Sensing Murder as a Psychic, I asked her why she didn't just pick the Lotto numbers instead of working, she never talked to me again after that.
    I worked with a lady that was a "psychic" on a telephone psychic hot line back in the US. I asked her the same question and got the same response. Maybe they learn that in their "psychic" training?
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