best cafes/hangouts north island

[James Deuce]

i wouldnt be seen dead in starbucks mate, they are on a mission to take over the world! why do people go in there????

Exactly - Has no one seen "The Spy Who Shagged Me"?

They are the McDonalds of the Cafe world, and they most certainly do their best to keep coffee bean prices so low that the people growing and harvesting them experience a subsistence existence.

[Will]

I know a lot of Aucklanders that use Kaiaua, either the Fish n Chip place or the Pub, because it is a good little ride to get there. And to leave from there.

[marty]

Loose Goose - opposite the pub in Tirau. awesome anti pasto platters.

Alley Cats in Tirau (behind the towie) has awesome coffee and choc cake

[FROSTY:Me]

best fish and chip shop in the world is 3 km from miranda
Bacon and eggs -theres a cafe in devonport that does that absolutely delishimo

[spookey]

Pub n Grub...(old Red Barrell on Lake front), then out the back roads is Rock climbing cafe on way to Te Kuiti...
Rotorua is Highly Devious by the Rotorua Hospital

[spookey]

is at Wharepapa

[Blakamin]

OK ... who wants to compile all these so I can stick it in FAQ's ????
anyone???

[Hitcher]

Cuba Cafe at Palmerston North
The Exchange at Taihape
Cafe Rosetta at Raumati
Caffiend at Petone
Ujazi at Napier
Main Street Deli at Greytown
Aikmans (Merrivale) at Christchurch
McFarlanes at Inglewood
Manns Bakery at Dannevirke, and of course
The Flying Fish at Martinborough

[Al]

Good cafe is Najas in Mangawhi Heads, nice ride and walk through a garden centra to get to the cafe.
There is also the Dome View in the Brynderwyns, Puhoi pub nearly always has motorcycles parked outside!

Al

[Krusti]

apologies if this has been covered before, but your top stops for brekkie and brews would be most welcome, especially cafes that are popular with local bikers anywhere in nz, so I can work some runs out!.
thanx in advance
betti in palmy

Tarawera pub, Napier /Taupo Hwy

New owner is Pommy guy who brought his Duke and Royal Star out with him, hell of a nice guy, took us out back showed us his babies. Never drive past without stopping! Friendly locals as well.

Venison sammies with gravy are yummmmmy.



Okoroire pub, our local, allways popular.

[mangell6]

They are the McDonalds of the Cafe world, and they most certainly do their best to keep coffee bean prices so low that the people growing and harvesting them experience a subsistence existence.

Umm bullshit, there a bigger coffee manufacturers than that little company known as Starbucks.

[James Deuce]

Umm bullshit, there a bigger coffee manufacturers than that little company known as Starbucks.

Growers (manufacturers) have a stratified system to sell coffee through. They don't make a great deal of profit. The distributors and futures markets on the other hand encompass everything that is unpleasant about capitalism.

Starbucks add another layer to the distribution model, though they don't gouge to the same level as McDonalds according to Fortune.

They do at least make money though.

http://www.hoovers.com/starbucks/--I...n-annual.xhtml

[What?]

apologies if this has been covered before, but your top stops for brekkie and brews would be most welcome, especially cafes that are popular with local bikers anywhere in nz, so I can work some runs out!.
thanx in advance
betti in palmy

I started a similar thread way back called "Touring: places to see/avoid" or something similar. Quite a few mentions on eats and museums.
Maybe a moderator could merge them and make it sticky?

Here it is: http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=340

[spookey]

Agree abt the venison sndwiches...it's a gotta stop place.
Okoirore great hang out, awesome hotel for the night

[Hitcher]

Growers (manufacturers) have a stratified system to sell coffee through. They don't make a great deal of profit. The distributors and futures markets on the other hand encompass everything that is unpleasant about capitalism.

Coffee beans are a commodity good produced by a plethora of growers and nations -- generally third world. Prices, like all commodities, are set by supply and demand. Growers generally have little leverage so therefore end up as residual price takers -- just like New Zealand sheep and beef farmers. It is those further up the supply chain who make the most money, arguably because they take the greatest risks.

On the subject of futures' trading, this is an inevitable response to the volatility of commodity markets and is an effective mechanism for legitimate hedgers. It is also an opportunity for speculators. But as futures' trading is genuinely a "zero-sum game" (for every winner there is an equal and opposite loser) I don't have a problem with that.

Returning to the subject of coffee, I have more difficulty with the interventions of the World Bank and the IMF on the economies of the third world than I do with "capitalism".