Beliefs on the afterlife

[Steam]

I must join the majority in saying there's nothing after death, we are just patterns of neurons and electrical signals in the brain that stop working when the body does.

I read somewhere that Kiwis are among the top five least religious countries in the world. The other ones were Norway and Sweden and Denmark I think.

[Number One]

yeah

lets not discuss anything

shut down the forum i say

All for discussion but some seem to think that discussion involves putting others down in order to add strength to their own 'argument'.

[Headbanger]

double post

[cowboyz]

All for discussion but some seem to think that discussion involves putting others down in order to add strength to their own 'argument'.

Putting together a convincing argument is ok.

There are too many in-consistancies to believe in god.

For instance, if something good happens, its gods will, if something bad happens, god works in mysterious ways

If you talk to god your sane, if he talks back your crazy.

You can take the most arbitory comment and say it is correct because God said so, I thought only mothers had reserved that right.

The whole idea that I am answerable to someone (thing) else is unacceptable to me. The whole idea that I should be grateful for shitty things that happen because I deserve to be tested doesnt sit well with me.

I will take my chances and be responsible for my own actions. If one day I do meet "the maker" then I will tell her (if god exists you know its a woman because a man would just come down and introduce himself, not sit up in heaven saying, you do whatever you want as long as it is what I want you to do but I am not telling you what to do but if you dont do what I want you to do then I will turn you into salt or something like that) everything she has been doing wrong and apply for the job.

[Number One]

Agree convincing reasoned arguments are good...and a good read often too. Nastiness and name calling are not.

BTW I don't believe in GOD

[fire eyes]

All for discussion but some seem to think that discussion involves putting others down in order to add strength to their own 'argument'.

Its all good durty .. .. I don't mind being called a fruit loop at all .. I still respect everyones opinions regardless of weather I agree with them or not .. its called freedom of expression & acceptence in many ways. The original post by Speedygirl was her just asking what peoples thoughts were about the subject. I guess some have gone a bit overboard but that can sometimes be good if the conversation expands into something meaningful eh.

Good thing Im a balanced kinda person LOL. ok I lean over a little sometimes but generally balanced.

[Number One]

Its all good durty ..

Yeah if you aren't resilient you wouldn't bother posting on here at all my comment was more general than just referring to the responses to you

...this thread could probably go Scottish though .

[NinjaNanna]

Have a think about this http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...ostcount=10282

[SixPackBack]

What we believe means jack shit in the bigger scheme of things. What we know and can prove should be the baseline for such discussion.

Google near death experiences. Several books have been written by neutral scientists and the results are surprising, many individuals speak of being beckoned or walking towards 'the light', a minority report a terrifying experience with monsters and suchlike.

Wish I could find a link to a fascinating documentary first aired in the late 90's. In essence multiple experiments concluded that upon death the human body becomes lighter by [from memory] a matter of ounces.

Guess this gives the jesus brigade ammunition for their collective delusions, but my own opinion is science has given us all we have and will solve the question of what happens to us when we die and that fact is often stranger than fiction,consequently I do not know and therefore have no opinion.

[Gubb]

Agree with Nagash here.

I'll be nothing more than worm food. Consciousness ends, just as it was before you were born (Reincarnation? pfffft. Not on my watch!) .

"Live in the now!" - Perhaps the greatest philosopher of our time. (Garth Algar)

Wish I could find a link to a fascinating documentary first aired in the late 90's. In essence multiple experiments concluded that upon death the human body becomes lighter by [from memory] a matter of ounces.

21 Grams. (This is the movie, not the aforementioned documentary)

[fire eyes]

Yeah if you aren't resilient you wouldn't bother posting on here at all my comment was more general than just referring to the responses to you

...this thread could probably go Scottish though .

true! ... Iv learnt pretty quick smart resilience plays a big part in these forums! ... this thread makes for good reading though.

[rachprice]

What we believe means jack shit in the bigger scheme of things. What we know and can prove should be the baseline for such discussion.

Google near death experiences. Several books have been written by neutral scientists and the results are surprising, many individuals speak of being beckoned or walking towards 'the light', a minority report a terrifying experience with monsters and suchlike.

Wish I could find a link to a fascinating documentary first aired in the late 90's. In essence multiple experiments concluded that upon death the human body becomes lighter by [from memory] a matter of ounces.

Guess this gives the jesus brigade ammunition for their collective delusions, but my own opinion is science has given us all we have and will solve the question of what happens to us when we die and that fact is often stranger than fiction,consequently I do not know and therefore have no opinion.

Yeah I have come across that too. I think its 21 grams. Interesting topic the soul...

[jrandom]

does it really matter what any of us think...

Of course it does.

This is not a game.

Thoughts motivate actions.

Actions affect all humanity.

Actions motivated by thoughts that are not based on reason lead to very concrete problems.

Most of the world has spent the last half-millennium painfully and bloodily struggling up out of the darkness and into the light.

It behooves us to fight the shadow wherever it appears.

Belief without reason is the first step on a road to fear, hatred, oppression and slaughter. I will never fail to raise my voice in dissent against it.

[Mikkel]

I have trouble enough planning for next week - and fuck me if I'm even going to waste a single thought on retirement plans yet.

So where does that leave "the afterlife"?

[Number One]

Of course it does.

This is not a game.

Thoughts motivate actions.

Actions affect all humanity.

Actions motivated by thoughts that are not based on reason lead to very concrete problems.

Most of the world has spent the last half-millennium painfully and bloodily struggling up out of the darkness and into the light.

It behooves us to fight the shadow wherever it appears.

Belief without reason is the first step on a road to fear, hatred, oppression and slaughter. I will never fail to raise my voice in dissent against it.

You are over thinking my statement