250 vs Boy Racer

[NOMIS]

Sounds like a plan, would be real good to see,

actually in the proccess of putting my '88 gsx750es back together ready for nightspeed.Gotta do the same sorta stuff, and register it,wof......etc. bit of a dog really(cosmetically) but should go alright.

Would be good to see,always good seeing the smaller bikes run compared to mostly big bikes all the time, had a blast taking my rgv150 up there.

What kinda car have you raced up there?, just curious as am into most things motorsport realted.

had a 5.0l Vl Commodore auto trany b "n" m quicksilver shifter 2500rpm stall and manual valve body. only did a low 14 something cant remember now, that thing was a shiter did had 3 differnt motors in that a 2.0L a 3.0L and the 5.0l lol, single spinner until i welded it after I blew it. was my first car

[Brett]

Nomis, I am sure your hornet is quick, I especially like them as a 250cc twin...honestly I do, but as an owner of 5 ZXR 250C's and as someone who rode with A LOT of other 250's and 250 riders, I honestly believe that they are a hugely different kettle of fish. They are just a lot faster.
Yes, the hornet had a bit more low down torque, but those little 4 cyl engines with their 19,500 rpm redline are purely magic. Hit 8000 rpm, and they just take off with a new lease on life. From about 30kph they are unstoppable by all but a CBR250rr. And even then they are a dead even match.
They are such a well designed little engine, I actually don't think it would be possible to get a 250cc twin or single cylinder engine powerful enough to match their performance.
I had one particular ZXR that was my first 250cc and was the one I kept through the years I owned them, it was my favourite. I rode that little bike HARD. I do recall one particular ride out to Kaiaua with a certain Motoracer, N4CR & Texmo where I went through a tight little chicane and in the weight transition, the little bugger actually lifted the front wheel about a foot high.. For 2...nearly 3 years it was a faithful trooper.
After my spate of 250cc ownership, I personally concluded that CBR250rr was fastest in a straight line (not by a whole lot however), ZXR250C was the best handling and more confortable to ride, being a slightly larger bike and the little Hornet was the comfiest.
By all means, the hornet has its own style.

[Brett]

Nomis - by the way, have you done any cosmetic work to your hornet?

[NOMIS]

Nomis - by the way, have you done any cosmetic work to your hornet?

Lol to this question its more what cosmetic work havn't I done, Go on to my profile and have alook in my album, its pretty old album and looks heaps diff since last pics

And the other the hornet is a inline 4 buddy also redlines at 17,000rpm doesn't valve bounce though except I dont take it higher than around 16,500rpm
, Hit 10K on a hornet and its the same thing picks up and goes.

I havn't owned a zxr or a cbr but I know people who have had them, I would personaly take the cbrr over a zxr because of looks but they are both good bikes'. I want to get my hornet on a dyno to retune it again because I don't think its running 100% seems a bit rich . But then again I don't know how long I will be keeping it for.

Cheers

[vtec]

Hey Brett,

I also went for a ride with Texmo and Motoracer and HDTBoy around the coro loop. We had so many near misses me included. Great fun, but I decided to keep it to the track after that.

HDT Boy's fairings caught in the wind and flew off his bike hahahahahaa. CBR400RR. They weren't attached very well.

Texmo on a ZXR250 was the only guy to ever beat me fair and square on the 250 four stroke in the dry. But I got a faster laptime than him :P He then proceeded to highside his ZXR chasing my CBR's laptime on Manfeild.

[Delerium]

on a bit of a tangent, what are the differences between the manufacturing years of the hornets?

[NOMIS]

on a bit of a tangent, what are the differences between the manufacturing years of the hornets?

Exhaust, things like mirrors sprockets ( not a biggy ) and carbs are diff through the range. not to sure what exactly. Guys at wild wet told me mine a bigger than factory, but they also said the hornets come out with differnt types.

Some one who knows more than i do please...............

[road king]

Haven't been beaten on the 400 except by faster bikes, or getting sloppy on the launch versus equal powered bikes. However, I ALWAYS get blitzed by Ford Commodores screaming past me at 140+, seconds after I've got to 100.

interesting, never seen a ford commodore

[CM2005]

Ahm, i haven't red the whole thread, but i blitzed an Evo 3 on my mates aprilia RS the other day.

[revlikeshit]

Jsust to the person who wanted to know how often they run the drags at meremere such as nightspeed etc.....

Well the summer nightspeed drags usually start around november and go through to bout febuary/march...

http://www.framautolitedragway.co.nz/

november 7th is the 1st one, next ones on the 21st i think.

[revlikeshit]

Just to add, "valve bounce" , people use this word all the time, anything remotely modern and 4 stroke has an electronic rev limiter......


Had a guy try and tell me about how he was valve bouncing his 2stroke...... .....um a 2stroke doesnt have valves you coon,was my reply.

[Coyote]

interesting, never seen a ford commodore

Bet you haven't seen a Holden Falcon either. They all look the same so you probably haven't cared to notice.

[NOMIS]

Just to add, "valve bounce" , people use this word all the time, anything remotely modern and 4 stroke has an electronic rev limiter......


Had a guy try and tell me about how he was valve bouncing his 2stroke...... .....um a 2stroke doesnt have valves you coon,was my reply.

ok soooorrryyyy. yes I know but u no what I mean how about hit the limiter.

[Brett]

Hey Brett,

I also went for a ride with Texmo and Motoracer and HDTBoy around the coro loop. We had so many near misses me included. Great fun, but I decided to keep it to the track after that.

HDT Boy's fairings caught in the wind and flew off his bike hahahahahaa. CBR400RR. They weren't attached very well.

Texmo on a ZXR250 was the only guy to ever beat me fair and square on the 250 four stroke in the dry. But I got a faster laptime than him :P He then proceeded to highside his ZXR chasing my CBR's laptime on Manfeild.

I know what you mean about those HECTIC coro loops etc. After Loosebruce got killled and a few too many close calls of my own (and I think Sudeep and Tex are the same) I also decided it just aint worth it on the road. Man there have been some 'ohhhhh shit' moments...

Funny you mention what happened to HDT's bike with the fiarings in the wind...same thing happened to Tex on one of the first rides he did on his GSXR. RIding out to raglan, the underside of the fairing came loose and they ripped apart. From memory we found a piece of old No.8 wire and held it together...

You are right about Tex, that guy was pretty quick on a 250, although I know he mentioned you with high regard as well when we talked about who was a quick rider. Never ridden with you (except at trackdays), met you at the lights by botany once turning right off Ti Rakau Dr ino Ti Irirangi. DO you road ride much anymore?

[Brett]

Lol to this question its more what cosmetic work havn't I done, Go on to my profile and have alook in my album, its pretty old album and looks heaps diff since last pics

And the other the hornet is a inline 4 buddy also redlines at 17,000rpm doesn't valve bounce though except I dont take it higher than around 16,500rpm
, Hit 10K on a hornet and its the same thing picks up and goes.

I havn't owned a zxr or a cbr but I know people who have had them, I would personaly take the cbrr over a zxr because of looks but they are both good bikes'. I want to get my hornet on a dyno to retune it again because I don't think its running 100% seems a bit rich . But then again I don't know how long I will be keeping it for.

Cheers

Yo, stand corrected on them being a twin, I have no idea why I remember them being one...shows how long it has been since I have ridden with one or on one!

As far as how long to keep a 250 for, I know that I had the most fun on my ZXR. The GSXR is cool, but it makes things a little bit too serious sometimes. If I could go back, I woud have kept the ZXR and still bought the GSXR...probably would have done what vtec does, race a 250cc.

Either way, enjoy them, 250's are fun!