ACC rant.

**98tls** · 15th July 2008, 19:16

Anyone see the close up segment tonight on the bed/breakfast owner in Kaikoura allegedly paid out huge $ over the years for a back injury.Guilty or not is one thing and looking at the video of him landscaping it seems theres questions to be asked but after being investigated a few times ACC hasnt prosecuted him but for them to decline to appear on TV to answer said questions seems somewhat arrogant does it not,am sure its our money that was given to him so how do they have a right to not bother answering any questions that may arise?Seems at times these people forget who there working for and whose money they dish out willy nilly.Actually not at times it seems commonplace these days.

**Tank** · 15th July 2008, 19:21

easily resolved. Vote National.

They will open it up to competition / private companies and assholes like that will be audited and sued like he deserves to be.

(although I admit thats wishful thinking)

Too many people live off sickness benefit and ACC - they need to get tough on this!!!!!!

**98tls** · 15th July 2008, 19:27

Originally Posted by Tank

easily resolved. Vote National.

They will open it up to competition / private companies and assholes like that will be audited and sued like he deserves to be.

(although I admit thats wishful thinking)

Too many people live off sickness benefit and ACC - they need to get tough on this!!!!!!

I hear that,even in small town NZ theres heaps of them.I know of more than one couple that have been on the bludge for years with no real medical complaint other than bone lazy.

**pete376403** · 15th July 2008, 19:48

I'll bet there's a lot of people at ACC going through all their old e-mails hoping this guys name doesn't show up. That way they can claim they never knew about it.

**Meanie** · 15th July 2008, 19:59

Dont start me on paying fucking ACC, got another bill from the arseholes the other day. They are nothing but bloody blood sucking leaches. We had private insurance one year a while ago. They changed it back when they realised they were gonna run out of money. Saved a small fortune that year, the biggest problem was we still got a bill from ACC for all the people still on ACC from previous injuries
At least with private insurance they will be more pro active in finding the scammers

**Mom** · 15th July 2008, 20:03

Originally Posted by 98tls

I hear that,even in small town NZ theres heaps of them.I know of more than one couple that have been on the bludge for years with no real medical complaint other than bone lazy.

I also know a man who is on his second back injury. This current one was as a result of weedeating his back yard at Xmas. He has recently had his second surgery to repair the damage.

He is able to walk, drive a car, stand up and sit down. He also goes fishing from time to time on a boat (not his btw). He has been seen at his former place of work talking to people, maybe picking something up. These things cause him some or huge discomfort depending on how long he does them for. He is no way fit to do a full days work, and probably wont ever be again, but to the casual observer he may be seen to be living it up on ACC. He is mid 40's, hard working and in pain 90% of the time, did I mention really pissed off about how he is reduced to living?

Never condemn unless you know the full story. I am sure there are some that rip the system off, not all do!

**Headbanger** · 15th July 2008, 20:07

Fuck em.

My back gives me hell,has done for years ACC just stopped my payments and told me to sign up for the sicken benefit when they got sick of me.

Though I guess I deserved it, I asked for help in re-training so I could re-enter the work force.

Bastards.

**98tls** · 15th July 2008, 20:11

Originally Posted by Mom

I also know a man who is on his second back injury. This current one was as a result of weedeating his back yard at Xmas. He has recently had his second surgery to repair the damage.

He is able to walk, drive a car, stand up and sit down. He also goes fishing from time to time on a boat (not his btw). He has been seen at his former place of work talking to people, maybe picking something up. These things cause him some or huge discomfort depending on how long he does them for. He is no way fit to do a full days work, and probably wont ever be again, but to the casual observer he may be seen to be living it up on ACC. He is mid 40's, hard working and in pain 90% of the time, did I mention really pissed off about how he is reduced to living?

Never condemn unless you know the full story. I am sure there are some that rip the system off, not all do!

Not condeming him yet Mom,my problem was with ACC declining to front up and talk about it.Personally i feel that if they are asked to they shouldnt have a decline option,its NZers money there handling so front up and explain.

**Mom** · 15th July 2008, 20:14

Originally Posted by 98tls

Not condeming him yet Mom,my problem was with ACC declining to front up and talk about it.

The "yet" comment worries me

ACC are a two faced bunch of thingamyjigs!

(no swearing note

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Apologies if I jumped in too fast.

Back seat now to read the thread properly

**Meanie** · 15th July 2008, 20:15

Originally Posted by Headbanger

Fuck em.

My back gives me hell,has done for years ACC just stopped my payments and told me to sign up for the sicken benefit when they got sick of me.

Though I guess I deserved it, I asked for help in re-training so I could re-enter the work force.

Bastards.

Funny that similar thing happened to me. Fucked my knee and ended up on ACC, got sick of it after a very short time so i pissed of to Aussie for a change of work style to see if that would help. Got home sick after a year so came home. Went into ACC to see if they could help me into another job or any help, wasnt after a hand out, just some honest help and the fuckers told me cause i had been out of the country for more than a year they couldnt help me with anything. I was out of the country for 1 year and four days
What about all the ACC levies i had been paying all my life

**JimO** · 15th July 2008, 20:18

i also know of someone on acc for a back injury, he manages to handle a 18 ft boat including draging the thing about in his carport, paint and landscape his houses, lay carpet in his houses, go hunting and carry his kill back he has been on the bludge for nearly 20 years

**Meanie** · 15th July 2008, 20:22

Originally Posted by jimjim

i also know of someone on acc for a back injury, he manages to handle a 18 ft boat including draging the thing about in his carport, paint and landscape his houses, lay carpet in his houses, go hunting and carry his kill back he has been on the bludge for nearly 20 years

Ever think of potting him in

**98tls** · 15th July 2008, 20:27

Originally Posted by Meanie

Ever think of potting him in

In my case yea i have thought about it the odd time but there both mates and both bikers,i do on the odd occasion remind them that my early mornings subsidise the enjoyment but hey,what do you do?Ironic thing is that in many cases these people earn more than me when you combine the benefit with the cash in hand income they receive.

**Meanie** · 15th July 2008, 20:29

Originally Posted by 98tls

In my case yea i have thought about it the odd time but there both mates and both bikers,i do on the odd occasion remind them that my early mornings subsidise the enjoyment but hey,what do you do?Ironic thing is that in many cases these people earn more than me when you combine the benefit with the cash in hand income they receive.

That sucks.........