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    Get a altimeter from a model rocket place, stick it in/on avocado. Find maximum height, apply maths etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BMW_RACER View Post
    Get a altimeter from a model rocket place, stick it in/on avocado. Find maximum height, apply maths etc.
    you actually have good ideas?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BMW_RACER View Post
    Get a altimeter from a model rocket place, stick it in/on avocado. Find maximum height, apply maths etc.
    that'll only work if you attach altimeters to all your avocados...it'll also only work if you're high enough to witness and record the highest altitude, unfortunately for you glue does not always work but it seems to keep your posts consistent.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mikkel View Post
    This would work - however, let's say the exit velocity is 100 km/h this is equal to 27.78 m/s. Even if you had a camera that would be able to do a 10 fps capture you would need to measure a distance of ~2.8 m. Most consumer digital cameras can not achieve such fps. Besides, it's not unlikely that the avocado could be much faster than 100 km/h.
    high def video camera :P

    only $1800...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom View Post
    yer thats what i was thinking the avo normaly disintergrates on impact
    Mate, if you want the velocity of the avocado the best thing you can do is find a wall, measure 10m from the wall to the end of the nozzle, shoot and measure the time it takes to hit the wall, do a couple of these, average it out and you will have a fairly good average velocity.

    i.e
    Distance= 10m
    Time taken to hit wall = 1.7s
    Velocity = 10/1.7 = 5.9 m/s x 3.6 = 21.2 km/h

    This is a) an infinite amount of times easier, b) most likely a lot more accurate as statistically speaking human error should be normally distributed having a mean error of zero, and wind resistance is negligible.
    Not to mention all the difficulties in measuring angle of deflection on impact, actually hitting the block, assuming no friction loss in the roatation of the block.

    If you really want an accurate measure of velocity, set up a video camera and a scale beside the muzzle and play back the clip measuring the distance the avocado moves per frame.

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    You got a filthy mouth on you BMW_RACER - any progress with the DEI kit yet?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dave- View Post
    that'll only work if you attach altimeters to all your avocados...it'll also only work if you're high enough to witness and record the highest altitude, unfortunately for you glue does not always work but it seems to keep your posts consistent.
    The altimeter idea doesn't work for the simple reason that they are not very precise. Even with state-of-the-art GPS gear it'll take a couple of seconds to get the height just fairly precise.

    A common altimeter which works based on air pressure is far less accurate and sensitive.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dave-
    high def video camera :P

    only $1800...
    HD doesn't matter. What is important is the FPS - and how consistent this is.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dave- View Post
    delete me.
    You can do that yourself - you should be a senior member by now. (Think edit...)

    Quote Originally Posted by Patar View Post
    Mate, if you want the velocity of the avocado the best thing you can do is find a wall, measure 10m from the wall to the end of the nozzle, shoot and measure the time it takes to hit the wall, do a couple of these, average it out and you will have a fairly good average velocity.

    i.e
    Distance= 10m
    Time taken to hit wall = 1.7s
    Velocity = 10/1.7 = 5.9 m/s x 3.6 = 21.2 km/h

    This is a) an infinite amount of times easier, b) most likely a lot more accurate as statistically speaking human error should be normally distributed having a mean error of zero, and wind resistance is negligible.
    Not to mention all the difficulties in measuring angle of deflection on impact, actually hitting the block, assuming no friction loss in the roatation of the block.

    If you really want an accurate measure of velocity, set up a video camera and a scale beside the muzzle and play back the clip measuring the distance the avocado moves per frame.
    Good idea - except that the speed is likely to be considerably higher than 21.2 km/h and therefore it becomes very tricky to measure the time precisely with a handheld stopwatch -> specialist equipment -> dollars.

    Then you may say that we'll just use a distance of 50 meters - however then we get into trouble with the trajectory and the fact that you are measuring the average speed over said distance.
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    Who cares, just shoot shit with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BMW_RACER View Post
    Who cares, just shoot shit with it.
    Who frikin cares about how bloody fast an avocado will goo...sheesh, get a life!
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    Quote Originally Posted by scumdog View Post
    Who frikin cares about how bloody fast an avocado will goo...
    Faster than the Eagle auw!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikkel View Post
    You got a filthy mouth on you BMW_RACER - any progress with the DEI kit yet?



    The altimeter idea doesn't work for the simple reason that they are not very precise. Even with state-of-the-art GPS gear it'll take a couple of seconds to get the height just fairly precise.

    A common altimeter which works based on air pressure is far less accurate and sensitive.



    HD doesn't matter. What is important is the FPS - and how consistent this is.



    You can do that yourself - you should be a senior member by now. (Think edit...)



    Good idea - except that the speed is likely to be considerably higher than 21.2 km/h and therefore it becomes very tricky to measure the time precisely with a handheld stopwatch -> specialist equipment -> dollars.

    Then you may say that we'll just use a distance of 50 meters - however then we get into trouble with the trajectory and the fact that you are measuring the average speed over said distance.
    maybe i'm just an idiot but why on earth would he need it very precise?
    also if it's done over a distance of say 20-30m all it would take to get a good average reading would be 10 shots with 2-3 people recording the time taken. This should give a fairly sufficient estimate at what the velocity is, especially considering the variability in mass of avocado and air/fuel mixture

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    Quote Originally Posted by scumdog View Post
    Who frikin cares about how bloody fast an avocado will goo...sheesh, get a life!
    Me i have an interest in trajectorys and maths i like to know how stuff works

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    Quote Originally Posted by scumdog View Post
    Who frikin cares about how bloody fast an avocado will goo...sheesh, get a life!
    Was that directed at me? If so I think you misinterpreted my post

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patar View Post
    maybe i'm just an idiot but why on earth would he need it very precise?
    If you're going to do a job - at least do it well.

    Either do or don't - the half-arsed approach is a waste of time.

    Now, this is more of an exercise in how to do the measurement without all sorts of fancy specialist equipment - and still get a fairly accurate measurement.
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    Point the fucker straight up.
    Measure off 100M horizontally.
    Get a sextant... OK so it’s moderately specialised… use a protractor and a sighting tube.
    Fire said fucker.
    Pick the max altitude with the protractor/sight.
    Make with the trigstuff.


    Clamp the fucker to a skateboard along with enough weight to make up, say, 10kg.
    Weigh the avo.
    Fire fucker.
    Measure recoil distance.
    Make with the numbers.
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    i remember our science center used to have a cricket net where you bowled the ball and it told you how fast it was.... that could work

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    Quote Originally Posted by BMW_RACER View Post
    Or you could just use a chronograph.
    Wot he said. Somebody (or maybe a gun shop if you ask nicely enough and maybe flick 'em some cash) must have one you can borrow. FFS don't tell them what you are measuring though. Tell 'em you're reloading cartridges for a .303 or something.

    And by the way you need a firearms license to possess or use a spud gun.

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