Hyosungs and ethanol>>>NO GO

[Coyote]

OMG HYOSUCKS ARE GHEY LOLOLOLOLOL

Edit: Silly anti-winja caps thing

[rwh]

Blame the Greens for this one

You're blaming the greens for the high oil prices?

and the political requirement to have biofuels (don't get me started on what that has done to food supply and food prices) in the market place.

Last I heard the Greens were a bit hesitant on the biofuels thing too, for those same reasons.

Better is to just use less fuel full stop.

Richard

[Badjelly]

That puts Hyosung in good company with Daewoo, MG and Rover.

That's not good company.

..... but with Yamaha is eh

Yeah, I looked up the list after I posted. Hey folks, this is serious

Rubber or plastic fuel lines and seals, ethanol, and fuel injection don't mix.

Blame the Greens for this one and the political requirement to have biofuels (don't get me started on what that has done to food supply and food prices) in the market place.

OK, but I think some blame has to lie with the vehicle manufacturers. I mean ethanol has been blended with petrol on & off in various places around the world for, what, 3 decades. (I remember encountering it in Colorado in the 1980s.) And they still make vehicles that won't cope with it!?

I won't get you started on biofuel & food prices (I hope) but I'd just like to point out that making ethanol from corn is a bad idea for quite a few different reasons, eg, see what my mate William Connolley says:

From what I've seen, the US ethanol-from-corn program is barely energy-positive: Energy yield from corn ethanol equals approximately 125 percent of the fossil energy used to produce it which would mean the wedge referred to above would require virtually all the worlds croplands, if done with corn ethanol (its better if you use sugar cane, though). But corn ethanol isn't an alternative fuel; its a boondoggle for farmers.

There are other things you can make ethanol from, eg cellulose

[SPman]

That puts Hyosung in good company with Daewoo, MG and Rover.

I beleive its now spelt "Roewe", since the Chinese bought it.......

apropo of nothing......

[boomer]

Maybe the title of this thread could be changed? Seems it's not just about Hyosungs and Ethanol, but is actually relevant to a number of different bike makes... And may slow down the Hyo bashers, which really is getting a bit

you could paint the world pink it won't change teh fact that Hyosungs are what they are and will always be recognised as such..... TERRIBLE. I'd be more worried about what urine did to the biek as i know its a common past time in the UK to piss on them when seen in public.

and i too had red from a Hyobag owner, how apt.

[James Deuce]

You're blaming the greens for the high oil prices?

Absolutely. They've been pouring oil on the flames of ignorance for far too long and with far too little regard for the consequences. Dead people mean nothing to Green Party members despite their claims to the opposite.

The "greenification" of Western Society has EVERYTHING to do with artificially escalating the price of oil via speculation and propaganda. Even the OPEC countries have been murmuring about the price being inflated beyond anything they feel comfortable with.

[James Deuce]

There are other things you can make ethanol from, eg cellulose

The highest yields are coming from algae grown on sewerage farms. There's one in Nelson trialling an algae developed here in NZ.

The energy positive equation is quite interesting. Oil has become vastly more efficient in the last 20 years. Hydrogen in gas form will always be energy negative and fuel cells are ghey.

[Horse]

The "greenification" of Western Society has EVERYTHING to do with artificially escalating the price of oil via speculation and propaganda.

Uh, no, it doesn't.

[Meekey_Mouse]

Just go to BP.... Problem solved!

[Gubb]

Don't fret.

It's only being trialled in Wellington. There are two varieties, E3 and E10, the E3 shouldn't be a problem, and is the equivalent of 91, the E10 is best avoided unless the fact sheet says it's OK, this is the new 98.

Due to a Government mandate, all servos will be bringing out Ethanol fuel, but so far, Mobil is the first Major, Gull did it a while back.

Only selected sites have Ethanol fuel (i.e. only the ones that used to sell 98), the others still have the old dinosaur-juice.

[James Deuce]

Uh, no, it doesn't.

Have a think about that before you reflexively deny it.

[James Deuce]

Don't fret.

unless the fact sheet says it's It;s only being trialled in Wellington. There are two varieties, E3 and E10, the E3 shouldn't be a problem, and is the equivalent of 91, the E10 is best avoided OK, this is the new 98.

Due to a Government mandate, all servos will be bringing out Ethanol fuel, but so far, Mobil is the first Major, Gull did it a while back.

Only selected sites have Ethanol fuel (i.e. only the ones that used to sell 98), the others still have the old dinosaur-juice.

It is actually an issue. Fuel economy is disastrous if I stick fuel with ethanol in it in my Kwaka. I lose between 40 and 70 kms of tank range and the bike won't idle without choke. The pump labeling has to improve. It's practically invisible.

[marty]

Better is to just use less fuel full stop.

Richard

[Gubb]

Agreed, I will be avoiding Ethanol fuel in the Bike and Car (which it is OK to run with).

The thing that fucks me off is that it's being touted as "clean and green". Due to the Ethanol being imported from Brazil, and the associated deforestation, shipping costs etc, it works out to have a greater carbon footprint than sticking to regular fossil fuel.

Green my arse.

[<Rhino>]

OMG HYOSUCKS ARE GHEY LOLOLOLOLOL

Edit: Silly anti-winja caps thing

I ride, feel the wind, dodge the cages, have near misses, get wet, commute, and enjoy it it all JUST LIKE YOU............all on my hyosung. No different to you mate. Dosn't matter whats on the side oif the bike, its still a bike.