Pain in the arse when ya dont see the first of two yellow flags and get bumped from secong to fourth place.
Shafted myself out of a hundy at Paeroa for that.
Ta
Pain in the arse when ya dont see the first of two yellow flags and get bumped from secong to fourth place.
Shafted myself out of a hundy at Paeroa for that.
Forum whore
that sucks! you would understand my logic passing a lapper and passing for position are 2 totally diff things...
rules are the same for everyone though
Ta
Yeah, I guess the idea is safety, but it sucks when it costs ya.Originally Posted by CHOPPA
Glen Williams
Yellow is a caution flag , no passing of any other vehicle on the track. Some clubs seem to differentiate between a stationary Yellow (moderate caution) & a waved yellow (extreme caution). The rule to the rider is the same though (waved or unwaved), slow down, be aware of potential issues that you may not be able to see & no passing.
There is a "gentlemans theory" that you can undo a mistaken passing manouvre under a yellow ......... I have seen this done & I have done it myself in the past (in situations where you are braking as hard as you can & STILL cant stop behind the rider in front of you). - However i suspect that strictly speaking it will be a penalty to the passing rider if the officials so desire.
Fair weather rider
If you have passed a rider (any rider) under a yellow because you either didnt see the flag or you could not avoid passing him/her, then if you allow that rider to re pass you, no action will be taken, BUT, if you do not allow him/her to re pass you, you are liable to be penalised. If someone passes you under a Yellow Flag, then approach the Steward, Riders Rep or Clerk of the Course. What sometimes happens is that the corner workers are a bit busy and dont see the passes, therefore they do not report them to Race Control.
This rule is in place for not only your safety (Be it that you are lying prone on or near the track or a crashed bike is in a dangerous position and you could hit it and crash yourself), but the safety of the track workers.
Forum whore
Better to cost you a placing than someone their life I spose....
gypsy
that brings up a concern that i have about WHERE the flag marshalls are....
i can see...
start/finish
first corner (just)
3rd (splash)
5th (hairpin)
...
i am sure there are more but not where i am looking
just remembered the one at the end of the back stright. (coming into start/finish)
where is the one at higgins....
oh thats right way the fuck off to the left...
i am sure MOST riders are NOT LOOKING LEFT when entering higgins........
so if you over take on yellow there.. i recon you could get away with
"what yellow???"
what a ride so far!!!!
Bitch from Hell
just to raise rider awareness ... the yellows are held out on the first lap each time that the bikes are out ... so you will know where the flag points are.
gypsy
stillll
who looks left when turning right???
what i am saying is that i think WE need to re-think that flag point to a more pratical postion....
ie ... on the INSIDE of the right hand corner....where we as RACERS are looking....
ok so I don't "race"..lol...
what a ride so far!!!!
Ta
The only time I've missed seeing one, is at Paeroa. That was only really because of the sea of colours already in the crowd I think.
They stand out well at Manfield and Taupo, same at Ruapuna. Pukie is a bit dodgy comin over the hill, but fine once you know the marshal is in a tower.
gypsy
well boy.. you should try and see things at MY speed.....
then you will know what i am talking about....
on another note.. have you actually made it to Higgins yet?........... hehehehehehe
what a ride so far!!!!
Bitch from Hell
Are you mixing up drew with his brother whitetrash? ...????
gypsy
err.. now you got me thinking..........
what a ride so far!!!!
Forum whore
I agree with Drew, I've never had a problem seeing flags at Manfeild, when you are on track with green grass and grey tarmac, colours really stand out, wherever they are. Street racing makes it harder tho, for sure.
My problem with recognising flags is when marshalls wear innapropriatly coloured Hi-Viz!! A flaggie running around in a yellow of even discoloured Orange Hi-Viz always looks like a waved yellow to me at speed!
The yellow flag rule is a difficult one...though there is no passing, to me that isn't always the problem. At national level, I am aware there may be a problem, but for a still yellow flag, I don't slow down...Because if I do and the people i'm chasing or are chasing me don't, i've just lost a LOT of time! And when you are under the flag, it seems to me the problem would be speed of other riders being too high, not any potential passing.... but thats just my take on itClearly the no passing rule is there to try and slow everyone down because you arn't going to loose a place slowing, but even losing time is very bad, enough that means for me I may be more aware of whats going on, bt not slowing - EG my pole lap at levels earlier this year had a yellow flag at the harpin, cos someone had run off...
Jay Lawrence #37
gypsy
soooo...I agree with Drew, I've never had a problem seeing flags at Manfeild, when you are on track with green grass and grey tarmac, colours really stand out, wherever they are. Street racing makes it harder tho, for sure.
My problem with recognising flags is when marshalls wear innapropriatly coloured Hi-Viz!! A flaggie running around in a yellow of even discoloured Orange Hi-Viz always looks like a waved yellow to me at speed!
The yellow flag rule is a difficult one...though there is no passing, to me that isn't always the problem. At national level, I am aware there may be a problem, but for a still yellow flag, I don't slow down...Because if I do and the people i'm chasing or are chasing me don't, i've just lost a LOT of time! And when you are under the flag, it seems to me the problem would be speed of other riders being too high, not any potential passing.... but thats just my take on it
what your saying is..
that you lot are going so much SLOWER than me???
what a ride so far!!!!
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