Another reason Labour should be arseholed!

[avgas]

If you dont like dont vote for them

Didn't - x 3 even
so i can complain all i want

[avgas]

Thats what i cant understand everyone says they did not vote for them but yet they are in power sounds just like Zim.

What party did you meet everyone at?
NZ is small - but it is not that small.
Also take into account that 20% did not vote, and 18% follow the Jedi religion.
Can't remember the percentage of us who borrow from GE money, or the percentage of us who blindly invested in dodgy finance companies.
Just goes to show that what is good for the mass, is not always the best solution aye.

[Swoop]

NZ is small - but it is not that small.

Unfortunately the election was "bought" in South Auckland. New electorates were formed in that area and the population demographic suited the Looney Labourite Sect...

[devnull]

Voltaire had it right... "The best form of govt is a democracy, tempered by assassination"

[vifferman]

Unfortunately the Looney Labourite Sect has purchased something that needs a serious injection of cash. The taxpayers get to have their wallets/purses bled once again.

I'm expecting that not only will we have to pay for the railways to be brought up to spec, but also that we'll have to pay penalties if we choose to drive our cars, in order to force us onto trains.
Doesn't the Gooberment get it? People generally don't want to either travel by train or send stuff by train! It's not convenient, and the country's terrain doesn't really cater well for it. The exception to this is the few people who live near to a railway line and who don't need their car during the day, so are happy to commute by rail.

[enigma51]

What party did you meet everyone at?
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dont try and be smart you might become a labour voter!

[MSTRS:Me]

dont try and be smart you might become a labour voter!

Intelligent people don't vote Labour...teachers do, and they are NOT intelligent.

[Sanx]

Intelligent people don't vote Labour...teachers do, and they are NOT intelligent.

Those that take more from the State than they give to it, vote Labour.

It's a party of bludgers, run by bludgers and with a vested interest in supporting as many bludgers as possible for as long as possible.

[MSTRS:Me]

Those that take more from the State than they give to it, vote Labour.

It's a party of bludgers, run by bludgers and with a vested interest in supporting as many bludgers as possible for as long as possible.

Go to the top of the class. Take your books and pencils. Once you graduate, get a high-paying job. Then you can support a whole tribe of Labour voters.

[Sanx]

Go to the top of the class. Take your books and pencils. Once you graduate, get a high-paying job.

Thank you. I'd like to think I've managed this objective.

Then you can support a whole tribe of Labour voters.

From Queensland? I think not!

(And before someone talks about how I was happy to use the state to get my education, blah-di-blah; sorry, but that period of my life was spent in another country, so the NZ government paid nothing to get me where I am today.)

[Winston001]

I'm expecting that not only will we have to pay for the railways to be brought up to spec, but also that we'll have to pay penalties if we choose to drive our cars, in order to force us onto trains.

Doesn't the Gooberment get it? People generally don't want to either travel by train or send stuff by train! It's not convenient, and the country's terrain doesn't really cater well for it. The exception to this is the few people who live near to a railway line and who don't need their car during the day, so are happy to commute by rail.

I think you are right. However - and I have a 4WD - I have some sympathy for reducing the load on roads. It is logical to encourage mass transport of people and freight. I don't like it either but if I had to, could adapt. As long as I can use my truck and bike when I choose.

Apart from Australia and the USA, many nations use rail and public transport as their main movers. With the cost of fuel rising, and the cost of maintaining superhighways as well, maybe rail and buses will come back into their own. Probably in much newer efficent forms.

[Winston001]

As for the Government buying back the railways, I hate to admit it but longterm it could be a good decision.

However - the Labour ministers have no business nous at all.

They previously made the same mistake with Air New Zealand.

Air was facing bankruptcy. Aunty Helen stepped in with our cheque-book and saved the day. Dipstick. What they should have done was wait for it to crash and buy the whole kit and kaboodle from the liquidator. Or.......heaven forfend.....let it go entirely. Yes its nice to have a national airline but that's what various small Pacific islands thought too...... It isn't a soverignty issue.

As for rail, Toll were going to close down some lines. Let them - call their bluff. But it is election year so....... Seriously, who would have bought closed rail lines and rolling stock?!! There would always only be one serious bidder - the NZ government and they could dictate the price.

I despair, I really do. Such a waste of money.

[davereid]

So what if they closed some lines ?

If they arent economic why should I be taxed so they can be kept ?

Why bother ?

Small, hilly countries have never made a dollar for any rail operator.

Small hilly countries with a network of quality ports are even less likely to make a dollar.

If Kiwis thought rail was such a good investment, they could have phoned their broker and purchased a share.

But trainsets are never as much fun as when some-one else pays for them.

Close the bloody railway lines down. Make 'em into motor-cycle only freeways.

[Forest]

Voltaire had it right... "The best form of govt is a democracy, tempered by assassination"

I've just finished reading Voltaire's Candide. Which is a satire of course, but has some good ideas. One of my favourites:

In this country we find it pays to shoot an admiral from time to time to encourage the others.

[Flatcap]

Apart from Australia and the USA, many nations use rail and public transport as their main movers. With the cost of fuel rising, and the cost of maintaining superhighways as well, maybe rail and buses will come back into their own. Probably in much newer efficent forms.

Bring back Steam Trains - plenty of coal to burn round here

Plus they go TOOOoooooooOOOOOOOT