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Thread: Racetech gold valve install - self-install?

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    Quote Originally Posted by alm8@hotmail.co.nz View Post
    Race tech have taken alot of guess work out of it for you when they recommend settings based on your details. This is a good starting point especially if you are doing all the valves at the same time. But, Its not quick nor simple to do the job or analyse what the feedback the bike is giving you means in terms of shim stack arrangement. Race Tech suspension tuning bible is a great insight to all of this.

    The reality is that sometimes the settings are okay but also they are sometimes ''off the wall''. Our suspension dyno certainly sifts through what is on the money and what isn't.
    Brutally, the biggest problem with self instal is that too many people have the finesse of an elephant. I make no apologies in saying that because we evidence this on a near daily basis

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    Yep, their recommend DR650 settings are totally "off the wall".

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    Quote Originally Posted by NordieBoy View Post
    Yep, their recommend DR650 settings are totally "off the wall".
    Yes but thats not an issue with experience and equipment.

    We investigated Intiminators amid all of the so typical Yankee hype ( that is always prevalent ) and we were less than impressed with those. There are possibilities to make something that is a lot better but so much of it is down to cost and to that end nasty compromises are always evident.

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    Cogent ( www.motocd.com ) are doing their own "emulators" now that they say are better than RaceTech or Ricor's ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NordieBoy View Post
    Cogent ( www.motocd.com ) are doing their own "emulators" now that they say are better than RaceTech or Ricor's ones.
    I used the NZ made ones in my XR
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    Not pete-blen specials?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NordieBoy View Post
    Cogent ( www.motocd.com ) are doing their own "emulators" now that they say are better than RaceTech or Ricor's ones.
    Yes they look interesting. The Intiminator ''valving'' is frankly a joke. It looks like Cogent have proper deflective shim stacks. While I havent analysed these thoroughly where they all fail is they rely on spring pressure to hold them onto the top of the damper rod ( whose top surface is very rarely totally perpendicular to the centreline of the fork ) With Intiminators you can hear them ''clack'' as they unseat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NordieBoy View Post
    Not pete-blen specials?
    yep those are the ones.... could never get the return damping right..
    to limited on springs for the valve plate with the internal space..
    compression damping was easy...
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    Quote Originally Posted by pete-blen View Post
    yep those are the ones.... could never get the return damping right..
    to limited on springs for the valve plate with the internal space..
    compression damping was easy...
    Yes, we know whats required re the return damping , but divulging that knowledge ( from hard experience ) is a line we will not cross.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Taylor View Post
    Yes, we know whats required re the return damping , but divulging that knowledge ( from hard experience ) is a line we will not cross.
    god dam man... chill out...
    I was in fact replying to Nordie.... I don't recall asking for secret squirrel info...
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    Quote Originally Posted by pete-blen View Post
    god dam man... chill out...
    I was in fact replying to Nordie.... I don't recall asking for secret squirrel info...
    The good Dr tends to be wound tighter than a piano string, and busier than a one legged man in an arse kicking contest.

    We make concessions, he's a tortured soul.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pete-blen View Post
    god dam man... chill out...
    I was in fact replying to Nordie.... I don't recall asking for secret squirrel info...
    No you didn't but I was pointing out that it was fixable.

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