"Faith Based" units in prisons.

[Gubb]

how the hell does it affect YOU ? Why are you pissed off about things that don't affect you ?

Forget about other peoples irrelevant bullshit and get back to your fun project.

geez

FFS!
I know i'm on your ignore list, but that's absolute bullshit.
Tax dollars being used, criminal rehabilitation and socities issues affect EVERYONE, whether your in prison, or not.

[CookMySock]

Is that a particular "YOU" or just YOU kiwibikers in general?

Itsa rhetorical question. An invitation to consider that "shit that isnt actually here, and doesnt actually affect ANYONE, can actually be such a wind-up". Dont people have anything fun to go and do ?

I dont get it.

DB

[scumdog]

I'm a tad cynical regarding the number of erstwhile evil bastards that suddenly 'find' Christianity and God while banged up in the nick.

OH, and don't forget, they ARE prisoners, in prison and mostly after a lot of offending followed by about three 'final' warning they will go to jail, I don't give a flying fuck about all the sob stories of 'easily led' 'bad associates' 'broken home' etc - the writing was on the wall, if they had stayed at school they might have been able to read it.....

IMHO Prisoner: = no rights, no luxuries and throw away the key on third jail sentence.

[Badjelly]

It's a rhetorical question. An invitation to consider that "shit that isnt actually here, and doesnt actually affect ANYONE, can actually be such a wind-up".

OK, well, just in case you missed Gubb's post:

Tax dollars being used, criminal rehabilitation and society's issues affect EVERYONE, whether you're in prison, or not.

[Badjelly]

It's a good idea, these faith-based systems do work, and actually rehabilitate criminals.

Evidence?

Me!!!!!!! Im evidence enough to my self.i knew where i was going and I knew what hapend, If crims take it seriously god does do amazing things in peoples lives.

Counter-evidence: Me. I don't believe in God and I'm a nice bloke .

But what I meant was, evidence that faith-based rehabilitation programs work.

[smoky]

I wonder if god reads kiwibiker?

I reckon she’d have a pretty quick connection – like super broadband on speed or something.
It always amazes me how so many people have such strong opinions on subjects they know next to nothing about – but I guess that’s what kiwibikers all about somedays

[CookMySock]

Tax dollars being used, criminal rehabilitation and society's issues affect EVERYONE, whether you're in prison, or not.

Well, that case, we are then forced to consider the reality, cough, choke, choke, splutter, and ask the question "do the faith-based units get people out of the slammer more quickly?" If this is indeed true, and I have absolutely no idea, then on this logic would it not seem something to be glad about ?

Anyhoo, I'm getting involved, ugh, yuck. I'm gunna go fix my flat tyre.. sheesh.

DB

[Badjelly]

..."do the faith-based units get people out of the slammer more quickly?" If this is indeed true, and I have absolutely no idea...

Me neither.

[Number One]

strong opinions on subjects they know next to nothing about – but I guess that’s what kiwibikers all about somedays

YUP that's partly why I'm here!

Where else can I talk as much shit as I do on here. Where else can I just let it all hang out..well apart from the privacy of my own house that is.

It is a dangerous thing to have an opinion these days - you get shot down in flames no matter what you think (or even know).

KB is just beautiful - as I can always just ignore those that are quite rightly pointing out that I am talking through a whole in my It's fun and I make no apologies for it...btw I am actually quite sensible in real life...honest

[Patrick]

FFS!
I know i'm on your ignore list, but that's absolute bullshit.
Tax dollars being used, criminal rehabilitation and socities issues affect EVERYONE, whether your in prison, or not.

There ya go. DB can read it now... unless I am on his ignore list too...

[alanzs]

Itsa rhetorical question. An invitation to consider that "shit that isnt actually here, and doesnt actually affect ANYONE, can actually be such a wind-up". Dont people have anything fun to go and do ?

I dont get it.

DB

But the winding up of others is the fun part...

I think I'll go start the bike up....

[peasea]

I'm a tad cynical regarding the number of erstwhile evil bastards that suddenly 'find' Christianity and God while banged up in the nick.

OH, and don't forget, they ARE prisoners, in prison and mostly after a lot of offending followed by about three 'final' warning they will go to jail, I don't give a flying fuck about all the sob stories of 'easily led' 'bad associates' 'broken home' etc - the writing was on the wall, if they had stayed at school they might have been able to read it.....

IMHO Prisoner: = no rights, no luxuries and throw away the key on third jail sentence.

OMG, you've been taking your 'Let's Be Sensible' pills again, haven't you?

You're right; they are in there for a reason, usually (as you say) after numerous 'warnings'. It's about choice, they made one, suck it up. I came close many years ago, got the message and tidied up my act. I never want to go to prison coz I'm always dropping the soap in the shower.

It's actually pretty easy to be 'naughty' on occasion and not attract attention so what is it with these clowns? IMHO it's laziness. They don't want to work, go on the dole (too easy to get for start) then they have all day to sit about, get bored and for kicks (and/or extra cash) do burgs, do/sell drugs whatever and on goes the spiral.

If more of those jerks were BUSY they wouldn't have the time/energy to do crime after hours. Prisoners should work (and don't give me the 'rights' bullshit, they forfeit them at the gate when they go inside) and those who need the dole should also work for it.

Underfloor heating? TV's? Rip it all out, give them a blanket or two and tell them to shut the FU. First-timers might get the message then.

The Nanny State is alive and kicking.

[awayatc]

it's laziness. They don't want to work, go on the dole (too easy to get for start) then they have all day to sit about, get bored and for kicks (and/or extra cash) do burgs, do/sell drugs whatever and on goes the spiral.

It is as simple as that....!!!!!

Could somebody please explain this to the PC brigade..?

Crime has always existed, but there would be a lot less of it without all these random handouts.....

[Patrick]

I never want to go to prison coz I'm always dropping the soap in the shower.

You were just improving your chances of a date...