Should this forum name be changed to Formula 4 and 5 instead of Buckets

[Number One]

we should just call ourselves 'Bogans on Bikes'.

ooo yeah! AND go the Hutt gals we are such good stock after all

[Slingshot]

Leave it as buckets.

Technically, at the Slipway, although we adhere to the F4/F5 rules (sometimes loosely) it's not actually a "formula" class run/endorsed by the national body. You get where I'm going with this?

I think the challenge here is to get people thinking of highly modified small capacity bikes using a whole heap of No. 8 wire thinking when they here the term bucket...rather than people thinking "bucket of shit" (except for mine which is a bucket of shit).

[Trudes]

In the end I don't really give a rats arse what they're called, as long as they're called and we get the same opportunities to race as those who buy racebikes off the showroom floor with their bolt on performance accessories, no bitterness here eh?

With you there! So if we are called F4 and F5 we may be given more race time at the tracks with the big kids?
BTW I got that you were talking about the FORUM name change, but this is way more interesting than what we get called on KB, I mean I may get called Trudes sometimes but underneath I'm still a bitch, "A rose by any other name...etc etc".

And I might not have answered the question directly, but I did use "at the end of the day . ." which entitles me to ramble on about anything with impunity.

It's like saying "With all due respect" (you suck goat coks or whatever, -with all due respect of course).

Is that the same as saying "You are the biggest wanker I have ever encounted and you screw your mother on a regular basis, no offence" ??

[Kickaha]

With you there! So if we are called F4 and F5 we may be given more race time at the tracks with the big kids?

Move South, we already get that, a quick count up would see that we have the oppurtunity to do about 14 meetings a year without driving more than a couple of hours in any direction edit: 15 with the BOB and then I forgot the couple of CAMs meetings, fuck it lets add in the street races I reckon an easy 18-20 meetings without trying hard

A change of forum name will achieve what? errrrrrrr absolutley nothing, the clubs will still call them buckets, the trophies will still have buckets on them and so will the entry forms, seems to be more of a feel good thing than anything else

[Skunk]

A change of forum name will achieve what? errrrrrrr absolutley nothing, the clubs will still call them buckets, the trophies will still have buckets on them and so will the entry forms, seems to be more of a feel good thing than anything else

It's a technically correct name rather than a slang name. Helps to show uninitiated that it is a 'serious' class.

[Sully60]

Move South, we already get that, a quick count up would see that we have the oppurtunity to do about 14 meetings a year without driving more than a couple of hours in any direction edit: 15 with the BOB and then I forgot the couple of CAMs meetings, fuck it lets add in the street races I reckon an easy 18-20 meetings without trying hard

Yeah like I said earlier the mainland does seem to be the place to be!

A change of forum name will achieve what? errrrrrrr absolutley nothing, the clubs will still call them buckets, the trophies will still have buckets on them and so will the entry forms, seems to be more of a feel good thing than anything else

Yeah, I agree because ultimately eveything that's posted on here is just words on a server.

I think, no I know that we (lower North bucket racers) are enduring the effects of how past people invloved in the class and therefore the class as a whole were percieved. My thoughts were around starting a discussion on how we could maybe improve this situation and maybe a 'rebrand' might be a good start. There are steps being taken by some good people to get us back to the thriving scene that we used to have.

The particular use of the word term 'bucket racing' has had a seriously detremental effect on similar negotiations in the past. That is a fact.

It has to start somewhere.

[Buckets4Me]

Buckets Buckets Buckets



I dont want to explain it all again

even if my bike is more f4 with nylon stuck to it
and capable of 160 k/h
I'v run it with rs125's at pukekohe
and also in the pre82 class
both where a bit scary but i did outbrake a tz350 into the hairpin (nearly ran into the back of him)

[Mental Trousers]

The name Buckets has always conjured up the image of crazy fun for me. Calling them Formula 4/5 doesn't seem right. They're a fun series, typified by names such as Pamela Bucket, North Welly Massif, etc.

[speedpro]

Speedpro used to do pretty well against wobblers on Pantahs etc.

mid field in F3 was pretty typical, keeping average Rs125s honest and quite a few GSXR400s. Far more fun than "clubmans", that was just scary trying to get a run past GSXR1100s through the esses and into flower garden. Though at the last meeting I did there it was only due to lobbying by a few people that I had my entry accepted eventually - because I was on a bucket I was going to be slow and get in the way. That meeting I got 14th and 17th out of 30+ F3 bikes, from the back of the grid every time. I talked a dozen or so buckets into entering one year. Riders on real bikes were definitely looking down on us initially. First practice sorted that out. I think we had three Shirriffs riding buckets + ex 125GP national champ.

That year at Wanganui there were a few bucket sidecars ran in with the big boys as well. They were sooooooo much faster through the esses it was embarrassing.

Back in the OOOOld days. Gee, I was so fast back then. (refer Tui ad)

[gav]

I can change the name to MotoFXR if you like!?

[Sully60]

I can change the name to MotoFXR if you like!?

Gee, if the rot that's been creeping in from the south continues to spread we may just have to!

[F5 Dave]

Is that the same as saying "You are the biggest wanker I have ever encounted and you screw your mother on a regular basis, no offence" ??

The correct statment ends

"and you screw your mother on a regular basis, no offence, Officer"

[dangerous]

It's a technically correct name rather than a slang name. Helps to show uninitiated that it is a 'serious' class.

Its not a slang name... its THE NAME if it imbrases you maybe you should be racing in a formula that people look up to world GP maybe... "serious'... we are not, well some are but my point is its always been a social class of racing, I have lost a little interest of late due to it becoming more serious more F4.

Now as the BUCKET club pressie when promoting bigger events we say 'buckets F4 and F5' it covers bota avenues.

Good points have ben made on both sides, how ever I have never had anyone contact me asking about F4 and F5... they say "Ive been hearing a lot about bucket racing, how do I get involved.

Hell if we have high rep street races like Greymouth and they advertise Buckets then how bad can that be, I reckon only 10% would know what F4 is.
Lets keep the tradition cranking just like the airforce boys did.

Our bikes are buckets expect the FXRs abd CBRs... they are elegable street Stock bikes and should be knowen as F4.

Is it time to change our identity? Do you think we'll lose some of that identity if we change the way we are referred to? What else would you call it aprt from miniature roadrace classes f4 and F5?

Discuss......

hahaha... if you want it called Formula 4 or Formula 5... best you get a Formula race track 1st
As above rename to 'Buckets (F4&F5)'

[Buddha#81:Me]

Our bikes are buckets expect the FXRs abd CBRs... they are elegable street Stock bikes and should be knowen as F4.

Not now, most of them are too "modified" to run in Street Stock. Effectively most are highly modified commuter bikes.........oh yeah they're BUCKET's, the fact you don't like them cause they are new and cool and dont need spannering.

When was the last time you had to spanner R's MotoFXR?

I sit on the fence on the name change. I think F4 & F5 even miniture road racing does send a better message to the motorcyling community and public alike, but try changing your name when your 35 years old and most people would ask "why the fark ya do that.....you have allways been known as....."

[Rashika]

To me its Buckets, unless I wanna show it as a little bit more classy or try to explain that its is a smaller cc level of bike racing, then its F4/F5.

People usually know what F1, 2 and 3 are, so F4 is fairly easy to explain as a smaller CC rating. And THEN I usually explain that buckets is another name for it.
I like the term Buckets; its quirky, unique, and fun... really epitomises what Buckets are all about.

Funnily enough, I reckon Street stock will have the same issue, cos its kinda hard to explain to people what Streetstock is at times.. not that I race in the class.