Should this forum name be changed to Formula 4 and 5 instead of Buckets

**Kickaha** · 17th August 2008, 11:15

Originally Posted by Nasty

The guy who runs these meetings is not doing so as MNZ sanctioned. He is more than aware of how their meetings are run and I think is an ex steward. In fact it is explicitly not run under MNZ - no licences from them - etc.

The fact they are not run as a MNZ meeting makes the question of liabilty even more important, as MNZ carry insurance etc in the event of a mishap

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**Nasty** · 17th August 2008, 11:20

Originally Posted by Kickaha

The fact they are not run as a MNZ meeting makes the question of liabilty even more important, as MNZ carry insurance etc in the event of a mishap

Interesting spot of information that .. I didn't know that they covered privately run events.

**Skunk** · 17th August 2008, 13:06

Originally Posted by Nasty

Interesting spot of information that .. I didn't know that they covered privately run events.

They don't cover private events. It's a risk that Bayden is taking. Trouble is his trying to compete and run the events. He needs help and the NWM is about to do something about it.

**Skunk** · 17th August 2008, 13:32

Originally Posted by Kickaha

I once tried to enter a MCC meeting at Timaru and when asked for my class I replied "F4" and suprise suprise they had no idea what I was talking about untill I said "that's Buckets"

BINGO!
That is my whole argument. Buckets (F4/F5) and everyone would have the right idea. No-one wants to mention F4/F5 and now no-one knows what it is anymore.
Buckets is all classes, F4 and F5 are the sub classes. And of course the natural death - sidecars.

**Nasty** · 17th August 2008, 13:41

Originally Posted by Skunk

They don't cover private events. It's a risk that Bayden is taking. Trouble is his trying to compete and run the events. He needs help and the NWM is about to do something about it.

Ah right .. so you are going to arrange your own race series ... is Wellington big enough to support two bucket events?

**Number One** · 17th August 2008, 16:15

Originally Posted by Kickaha

it made the point that we can say what we like on here but it won't make any difference in the real world

Yeah it did make that point bravo! AND at the same time it was a...'Madam trashheap has spoken' styled (and unnecessary) bitch slap!

JUST making a point my arse...she was also being bitchy. AND it was pretty unnecessary to her 'point'. THAT WAS the *point* I was making... At least I own my bitchiness. Why yes...I am being a bitch...BUT atleast I'm an honest bitch

IS this the part where I get my man to come on and defend my honour?

I was making an honest and observational comment based on that snippy little post...FTR...when someone says 'get a grip people' and mentions 'a dozen or so of you' that isn't what is normally construed at a dig at a single person.

Originally Posted by Kickaha

people who seem to spam as many threads as they can with nothing of consequence to say

Don't like it.....click ignore...it's the in thing right now afterall

OH and once more for the record..I agree what things are called on here and what goes on in here is pretty inconsequential oh and no I didn't take up buckets after reading KB.

**Kickaha** · 17th August 2008, 17:20

Originally Posted by Nasty

Interesting spot of information that .. I didn't know that they covered privately run events.

Thats wasn't what I meant

Originally Posted by Skunk

They don't cover private events. It's a risk that Bayden is taking. Trouble is his trying to compete and run the events. He needs help and the NWM is about to do something about it.

Exactly

Originally Posted by Nasty

Ah right .. so you are going to arrange your own race series ... is Wellington big enough to support two bucket events?

He didn't say anything about running another event

Originally Posted by Skunk

That is my whole argument. Buckets (F4/F5) and everyone would have the right idea. No-one wants to mention F4/F5 and now no-one knows what it is anymore.
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Just say Buckets and everyone knows anyway, no need to even mention F4/F5

**Skunk** · 17th August 2008, 18:36

That's not what I said at all. I said Bayden needs help.

He needs help and the NWM is about to do something about it.

Where does that say

Originally Posted by Nasty

so you are going to arrange your own race series

**gav** · 17th August 2008, 18:38

If anyone asks you race Buckets and they have a couple of classes F4 and F5, if you run Supermotard do you say you race S1 or S2 instead of Supertards?

**chanceyy** · 17th August 2008, 18:44

hmm guys now i have just read all 174 posts

Now healthy debate is one thing .. but its getting close to just being all out slanging match. Everyone take a deep breath, & stop taking some of the comments so personally.

Do you think thats helping the initial question of changing the forum name from buckets to buckets (F4/5)

now IMHO at the end of the day a change on KB i have to agree that other classes do not have their own sub category - never thought buckets as being a bucket of shite either .. but at least I know what they are

I still struggle with knowing what the other F classes are ..

**Skunk** · 17th August 2008, 22:22

Originally Posted by gav

If anyone asks you race Buckets and they have a couple of classes F4 and F5, if you run Supermotard do you say you race S1 or S2 instead of Supertards?

True. But that's a side issue for Supermotards. I know there are two classes. Do the competitors? Probably. Do event organisers? Probably.
Pre 82's and the like can be dragged into this too. From Kickaha's story and my experience organisers DON'T know there are two classes. How many big events are Buckets at? TRRS is one because Chris Lawrence knows Buckets. Greymouth and Port Nelson, I don't know how Bucket's got there. That's the only to big events I know of that run Buckets. Do they know there are two classes of Buckets? ie. is it Buckets on the entry or F4 or F5? What are they really asking for?

My interest is in Buckets and that people understand that it is two Formula classes governed by MNZ. This isn't a 'must be this way only' thing. Just a feeble (yes, I know it's feeble but if the names aren't out there how can the questions be asked?) attempt to raise awareness of the 'other' names of the class.

As someone said: people join Buckets. What if they already knew there were two classes. What if they could find the rules?

I really don't understand why this is an issue to do. It's still Buckets. Bucket this, Bucket that, my F4, his F5.

**gav** · 17th August 2008, 23:26

I see your problem, the sooner we instigate MotoFXR the better! Just like MotoGP replaced 500GP's MotoFXR should replace Buckets .....
You got your MotoFXR yet Skunk?

**Kickaha** · 18th August 2008, 06:33

Originally Posted by Skunk

Do they know there are two classes of Buckets? ie. is it Buckets on the entry or F4 or F5?
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Buckets on the entry form (as it should be) we don't really run F5 so it doesn't matter and even if we did the classes would run together, except for BOB

**Skunk** · 18th August 2008, 07:47

Originally Posted by Kickaha

Buckets on the entry form (as it should be) we don't really run F5 so it doesn't matter and even if we did the classes would run together, except for BOB

That's a very narrow view of the world. If Chch doesn't run F5 you are the odd one out...