Jammers or Detectors. Which is best

[Biff]

You can't get a jammer to operate without it transmitting something. The only semi-legal (since it doesn't need to be operated to work) way I can envisage is to have a stealth vehicle which absorbs a lot of the radar and what it does reflect isn't reflected towards the reciever. And then that would cost more than a life time of tickets, so why bother?

Pretty much, although you're on the nail with your second statement.

Going back to what I referred to in my earlier posting, a dopplar shift is where the frequency is changed over a given distance & speed (amongst other things). With this in mind, the reason early stealth planes worked so well was because their structures consisted of a highly complex arrangement of angled body panels. When these various angles were hit by an RF (radio frequency) signal, be they microwave (including radar) or otherwise, each of these panels would reflect the RF signal back in various directions, some even towards the transmitting source at fractionally different times. Therefore the dopplar effect would be different for each of the signals received by the radar, therefore making the plane appear very small (like a bird or a flock of small birds) or not appear at all.

More modern radars overcame this by introducing a very careful set of algorithms into the radars software capable of "rebuilding" these different reflections in order to reconstitute the target. Then came RF absorption material.............

How to jam - three guys in a room, one is shouting (the radar transmitter, Tx) at the other, one is shouting back at him at least as loud if not louder (the target jammer transmitting, Tx), the third (the radar receiver, Rx) is trying to work out what the hell is being said.

[marty]

considering 2 patrol cars approaching each other can use their radars independently and without interfering with each other, and knowing just a little about radar theory, i beleive that the power and processing required to overcome a basic Ka band radar would be huge. it would be cheaper to take the back roads, or pay for a years racing 600 supersport, and there are no radars there! these units are tested in trucks for a reason - you just wouldn't fit them on a bike. i have yet to actually SEE one of these legendary 'works every time' jammer. you could always write to the USAF and ask for a test pot of F117-A paint.....

[Madmax]

got pulled up on the ZX10r the other day, this HP guy thought
i had a jammer on board? he had been trying to get a lock
on me two days in a row (and i was not speeding anyway)
we sort of came to the same idea that the shape and color (black)
of my bike may have made some inpact on the laser
(or he was a very poor shot)
for what its worth

[Blakamin]

I was told by my industry mate that the three people he knew who ran these units hit the picks the moment they went off, slowed down and turned the units off. Thereby allowing the radar/laser user to get a reading on them and hopefully not making them too suspicious - thereby avoiding the traffic stop and subsequent explanation of what the little black boxes were for.

thats what the boss does in his commode (and me the one time as I came into a 50 zone a tad hot and the car screamed at me... "WTF???" I thought and he reached over and hit the button to turn it off) he has the M20's on both ends of his car

[What?]

Simply sending the same wavelength (frequency) back from your speeding bike WILL NOT WORK. Ok the theory here that was posted in correct...

I came up with a valid theory??? Sorry - I won't do it again.

[Biff]

I came up with a valid theory??? Sorry - I won't do it again.

sorry - didn't mean to sound condescending. valid theory - yes, for a moving vehicle - no.

[What?]

sorry - didn't mean to sound condescending.

Not taken that way.

[Biff]

Not taken that way.

apology duly withdrawn

[TonyB]

Suggest that anyone thinking of buying a jammer reads this: http://www.radar.co.nz/driver.html
It appears the Rocky Mountain one wasn't all it appeared to be, mind you this article IS 8 years old now...

[avgas]

but i fig it was better than makin a new one.
http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaver...185/weird.html
and you said rat bikes were bad

[Dafe]

Considering there are cops belonging to this site, I wouldn't be mentioning knowing anybody using a jammer!!!
But for your own curiosity, thats fine!

[marty]

considering most of the cops on this site think that radar/laser jammers are a total waste of time & money because for 1, there's plenty more fish in the sea, and for 2, they know that what goes around comes around. i wouldn't sweat it.