That's it. Not voting for Nat

[MSTRS:Me]

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.... shite that is funny.......

Ya what? Put the nitrous down, fella. A stiff one has no conscience 'n all that, but not all of them would shirk their responsibility if they found out later.
There, but for....

[Max Preload]

Huh????? Deoxy (mumble, mumble, something a rather...) Nucleic Acid... DNA...

But you have no right to challenge the 'mothers' refusal to allow a paternity test even entirely at your expense. She says you're the father, you say you're not, her word is law, you pay. You better believe it.

hm... the line you quote was taken quite out of context with both the post it was in, and my previous posts in the thread.
My main point was that simply dictating a time to spend working misses the point that the goal is productivity, not just filling time. I also think requiring a certain amount of productivity rather than a certain amount of time would cause less resentment towards the plan.

Not out of context at all. Inclusion by incentive (equally disincentive to refuse to participate) is the only road to productivity. It cannot be separated.

[SixPackBack]

But you have no right to challenge the 'mothers' refusal to allow a paternity test even entirely at your expense. She says you're the father, you say you're not, her word is law, you pay. You better believe it.

I find that impossible to believe.

[Big Dave]

Speaking of disgraces - Stretch on the cover?
The new format is good, though...

I heard they have to chuck him out of newsagents at closing time.

[Oscar]

I heard they have to chuck him out of newsagents at closing time.

I heard that he's locked in his garage with 50 copies and 2 gallons of hand cream...

[Skyryder]

I find that impossible to believe.

I've heard something simular. I can remember reading about a guy in Timaru who wanted a test from the mother who was based in Australia. She refused but he still had come up with child support.


Skyryder

[doc]

I was citing the situation where the father is innocent of any bad intent other than getting his end away and has/can have no idea of the outcome.
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Aye ???? ...... Well first there was this real cool bird and he met this real hot bee.....Ferk someone help me out here.

Agree 1000% -

Well would you support the idea that the male must spend x no of years raising the child by himself. While the wanton husseies retrain . Of course this involves. MSTRS original quote. Partying at all those end of course functions. With no responsiblities of course.

[BIHB@0610]

Well would you support the idea that the male must spend x no of years raising the child by himself. While the wanton husseies retrain . Of course this involves. MSTRS original quote. Partying at all those end of course functions. With no responsiblities of course.

Where's Hitcher ....?

You may be surprised but I do partially support your idea - the ideal is that both parents are involved in raising a child, so yes, ideally the male would spend some time raising the child by himself (whether it's week on, week off, month on, month off, or year on, year off). Though I disagree with your label - I don't think a woman should be labelled a wanton hussy just because she falls pregnant - after all, it takes both sperm and egg to make a baby ....

And just quietly, from my experience (I completed an honours degree during my kids' early years - and they were never in daycare more than 15 hours a week) it's not all end of course functions and no responsibility - it's damned hard work. But the sense of achievement and fulfillment is worth it

[doc]

But the sense of achievement and fulfillment is worth it

Well I will agree with you on that one. But in our Rugby orientated society. (Kiwi) male's don't.

[Patrick]

She says you're the father, you say you're not, her word is law, you pay. You better believe it.

But surely there has to be a way... and if she is proved wrong, she pays your costs etc etc?

I find that impossible to believe.

+1.....................

Aye ???? ...... Well first there was this real cool bird and he met this real hot bee.....Ferk someone help me out here.

Dunno. MSTRS doesn't know either...

[Patrick]

Ya what? Put the nitrous down, fella. A stiff one has no conscience 'n all that, but not all of them would shirk their responsibility if they found out later.
There, but for....

You said it!!! It was funny.... You don't know the outcome.... Hillarious!!! "Getting his end away and having no idea of the outcome..."

Hah... made the bourbon come out me nose laughing at it again... shit!!!

Got an ex brother in law who has 4 kids to three women. Went the DNA way for one, so he didn't have to pay out for one he genuinely thought was not his. The little takka walked in and shite - they were identical twins 35 years apart!!!!!

Could have stopped there and then and saved the $2000 for the DNA test, but nooooooo......

[Max Preload]

I find that impossible to believe.

But surely there has to be a way... and if she is proved wrong, she pays your costs etc etc?

Ye have altogether too much faith in the system... see here.