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    Angry That's it. Not voting for Nat

    "If elected, National would require those on the DPB to undertake part-time work once their youngest child is aged six or over. It will set a 15 hour a week minimum work requirement."
    Have they no thought of what pressure that will put on genuie Solo Parents? Kid care as far as I am connerned is a full time job. It's an 24hr 7day-a-week on-call job. Reward those that do find work but back off those that find being a Solo Parent hard enough.

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    Once your youngest child is six or over, they will usually be at school for about 6 hours a day - is that really a 24/7 job then?

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    mmm not wanting to bash on anybody... no I don't have any kids, but aren't kids older than 6 at school... so no day care etc.

    drop kid off do 3 hours and head home or what ever...

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    The kiwi bludger system at work.

    Why should I work to pay 38% tax so solo mums can stay at home with their kids ?

    Maybe, I should be able to work 38% less, and spend some time with mine.

    This is a very timid step, not a great raving bold one.

    I can't understand why ANY benefit would be paid without effort from the recipient.
    David must play fair with the other kids, even the idiots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ambler View Post
    Once your youngest child is six or over, they will usually be at school for about 6 hours a day - is that really a 24/7 job then?
    My thought exactly. About time some people stopped thinking that having kids was a full time job. Parenting is a full-time job yes, but spitting another one out to a different fella every six years is not!
    I watched this on the news just now about National's proposed welfare legislation if they are elected and now I think I may just vote for them.

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    I reckon it's a good idea. If your ex is on the DPB all your child support payments go into a central slush fund to pay for the losers who don't pay. The ex was constantly bleating that she couldn't pay bills on the DPB, but after much cajoling, she finally got off her arse & got a job. She earns money, she gets my child support (much more than the DPB) and is now much more empowered

    Fuck all the arseholes living on the dole for years too. Her first husband "retired" when he was made redundant at 40. He moved to Foxton beach & was on the dole until he reached 65 "because there weren't any jobs in his local area". Loser.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davereid View Post
    Why should I work to pay 38% tax so solo mums can stay at home with their kids ?
    Probably because the other half of that kid's gene make-up are not helping enough in the financial raising of the kid, and often the solo parents need to.
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    Why should anyone get free money just because they've got a child?

    If they can't afford to take the time off to have them, it doesn't take a genius to work you should wait until you can..

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    I think that more people should see the DPB as a luxury that other working people pay for, and NOT a right to have.

    It is there to help those that are in need, but don't try kid yourself that there arent thousands and thousands of people in this country bludging it. Just the same as the doll and acc.

    I think that it is a a great idea from national.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ambler View Post
    Once your youngest child is six or over, they will usually be at school for about 6 hours a day - is that really a 24/7 job then?
    So what about the parents with special needs kids then?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiderInBlack View Post
    Probably because the other half of that kid's gene make-up are not helping enough in the financial raising of the kid, and often the solo parents need to.
    All the more reason to do some part time work. Or are you saying the other half should be required to pay 100% of the costs?

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    Hmmm I agree it doesnt seem too much to ask to get them to work 15 hours a week after they are six, though I wonder why they are just picking on DPB? why not tackle dole as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RiderInBlack View Post
    So what about the parents with special needs kids then?
    I dare say they would have to make allowances for genuine needs. That's why there doing this in the first place. For every DPB recipient with a special needs child there is most likely a recipient who actually could work but can get away with not.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiderInBlack View Post
    Probably because the other half of that kid's gene make-up are not helping enough in the financial raising of the kid, and often the solo parents need to.
    So.. I'm not related to the kid...

    But I have to spend extra time at work, away from my kids so that the solo parent can watch Oprah ?


    Thats what benefits are... extrahours at work for those not on them.

    This proposal asks only for 15 hours. Less than 2 days work.

    ...Sounds like a fucken extra bloody ordinary good deal to me...
    David must play fair with the other kids, even the idiots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RiderInBlack View Post
    Probably because the other half of that kid's gene make-up are not helping enough in the financial raising of the kid, and often the solo parents need to.
    I hear you Doug, but...

    The reality is that a solo parent on the DPB gets a max payment of $12.50 per week (or it was recently) regardless of the amount of money that the other parent is bled dry by the system! Seriously, it is a terrible system, specially for the children!

    I support having to work a few hours to maintain your benefit, particularly for solo parents. Keeps the brain engaged in what is required when you have to go out to work when your kids are no longer dependant and your DPB stops.
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