Uni bike thefts

[Squiggles]

Why not just use a normal padlock? Obviously one that is able to fit in the hole on the brake disc... Costs alot less...

The other side of using padlocks is that they're sometimes a bastard to carry around, whereas a disklock easily fits, and can be somewhat harder to remove

with disklock on, its going to take them a while to drag it out of the carpark they dont have vehicle access to

[bomma]

The other side of using padlocks is that they're sometimes a bastard to carry around, whereas a disklock easily fits, and can be somewhat harder to remove

with disklock on, its going to take them a while to drag it out of the carpark they dont have vehicle access to

i reckon a disklock would be a buttload harder to take off coz of the way its built....the locking part of a padlock is easily accessible while on a disklock, its got the disk on two sides and massive chunks of metal on two sides so its pretty hard to get to.....

[motorbyclist]

or just secure the thing to the ground with a cable....

[motorbyclist]

My point is...NONE of the bikes stolen...have had a DISK LOCK fitted... just the key turned to steering lock, so they break the steering lock and roll the bike away...

If they used disc locks they cannot be rolled away...

they would have to break off the disc lock first...and that takes time...and noise...

If not they would have to start carrying into vans etc...at this stage they use cars...guy jumps out...and rides / rolls it away, they do not load them up at the uni....

bollocks and bollocks

without looking at the stats i think it's a safe assumption that many bikes have sim ply been carried from their park into a van

and what sort of an idiot would try to steal a bike without a van? if they can't get it started immediately they need a way to conceal it as they take it away. sure a car may be used, but a van would be much more useful (and who argues with tradesman carrying bolt cutters vs random carrying bolt cutters)? ie, break lock, wheel bike away and into van, drive across town to deal to bike

[Hanne]

bollocks and bollocks

without looking at the stats i think it's a safe assumption that many bikes have sim ply been carried from their park into a van

and what sort of an idiot would try to steal a bike without a van? if they can't get it started immediately they need a way to conceal it as they take it away. sure a car may be used, but a van would be much more useful (and who argues with tradesman carrying bolt cutters vs random carrying bolt cutters)? ie, break lock, wheel bike away and into van, drive across town to deal to bike

A van would be quick and less suspicious to passers by, just say 'oh, I broke down/ binned on the way to uni, just getting it home now'
Especially on Symonds st that would be easy, pull up alongside, but same with cp36, back in by barrier, roll bike up over curb and straight into van, no one can even see. (set back from road, few people walk through car park from the street)THAT is whay a camera on the entrance would be a good idea.
Don't think a lock would be much of a deterrant to be honest.

[HungusMaximist]

Preventive measures are all good in all, but like we discussed with the club, if they want your bike bad enough they will get it.

However, having a few security measures in places might be the difference between a stolen bike and a bike that's still there. It's all about making it harder for the thieves to target your bike.

The other thing I like to mention is the average person's mentality (and this was discussed last year when a series of uni bikes got taxed). It seems, nobody is going to give a flying donut if a thief is rolling your bike into a van in broad daylight outside Symonds St. Unfortunately, it's just the way is is, most people won't question the actions because most people don't give a rats ass about what's going on, they're too far worried about themselves.

The underlying message, don't leave it to chance, get your bike security sorted.

[skidMark]

bollocks and bollocks

without looking at the stats i think it's a safe assumption that many bikes have sim ply been carried from their park into a van

and what sort of an idiot would try to steal a bike without a van? if they can't get it started immediately they need a way to conceal it as they take it away. sure a car may be used, but a van would be much more useful (and who argues with tradesman carrying bolt cutters vs random carrying bolt cutters)? ie, break lock, wheel bike away and into van, drive across town to deal to bike

Not a safe assumption at all.

I know thier operation. I am saying no more beyond that they only use sedans and move onto another bike if it has a disc lock.

Not one bike to date has been stolen from the uni that had a disc lock.

Fact.

Do not ask me how i know, because i am not going to tell you.

[Ragingrob]

I do very much like the idea of one or two cameras watching over our babies. More than likely there is only one or two small groups of people at work here, it's not as if every bike criminal in Auck would be targeting Auck Uni to this extent.

So, a camera wont stop a theft, but get that one person's number plate/face on camera, get the cops to deal to them like they should, and voila, he'd have to be desperate to try again.

[motorbyclist]

Don't think a lock would be much of a deterrant to be honest.

+1 for that post

in my case, considering the speed in which my bike was nicked, i reckon a lock would have done nothing. they wanted it, all a lock would have done is made rob's more appealing


but what a lock does offer is a lower excess

cameras would just increase the chances of recovery... which is ideal for many of the uninsured or those who really don't want to go hunting for new bike

[HungusMaximist]

Well, like I said mate, you're trying to minimize your risk of somebody nicking your bike.

Sure, it they want it bad enough they'll take it but who knows, having one could have ruled out your bike at least. It is a game of chance that you're playing with, wouldn't you wanna have the upper hand bro? Now if you were to tell me that you had a disc lock on the front and a nice cable lock on the rear and tied it up to something solid, and it still got nicked that would be a different story.

What we we should be doing is getting a message out there that we don't tolerate thieves and if half of the bikes chucked on a disc lock or a cable lock there wouldn't that deter you?

[shingo]

Not a safe assumption at all.

I know their operation. I am saying no more beyond that they only use sedans and move onto another bike if it has a disc lock.

Not one bike to date has been stolen from the uni that had a disc lock.

Fact.

Do not ask me how i know, because i am not going to tell you.

If you know all that then why the fuck haven't you done anything to stop their operation from continuing, or do you like seeing people have their bikes stolen?

[motorbyclist]

bloody moderation of post causing them to slip in late

Not a safe assumption at all.

I know thier operation. I am saying no more beyond that they only use sedans and move onto another bike if it has a disc lock.

Not one bike to date has been stolen from the uni that had a disc lock.

Fact.

Do not ask me how i know, because i am not going to tell you.

IF, mr troll, you do infact know about this, could you kindly inform me of where my bike is? i really am finding myself well and truly rooted thanks to these dickheads - costing over a hundred bucks a week in petrol, might not finish this assignment in time due to bike shopping, and can't delay bike shopping due to aforementioned financial disaster fast restricting my choice of bike


seriously, of all the people to steal from why the fuck would you pick on students? We're possibly one of the most vulnerable groups when it comes to unforseen expenses, and usually our vehicle is our only asset (electronics depreciate too much to count as asset in my books)

[Slyer]

They are no Robin Hoods that's for sure.
They don't give a fuck.

[Squiggles]

IF, mr troll, you do infact know about this, could you kindly inform me of where my bike is? i really am finding myself well and truly rooted thanks to these dickheads - costing over a hundred bucks a week in petrol, might not finish this assignment in time due to bike shopping, and can't delay bike shopping due to aforementioned financial disaster fast restricting my choice of bike

He doesnt know who did it, he's simply commenting on how its been done (and noticed) i.e. How they work.... The ignition of the rsv that was stolen was left on the ground, the next week the same dudes (presumably) rocked up in a car, and tried to screwdriver an R1... they're taking whatever they can move. Presumably with the viffer, they would have pinged the steering lock, and moved it to somewhere they could load it/hide it/ start it without being noticed

seriously, of all the people to steal from why the fuck would you pick on students? We're possibly one of the most vulnerable groups when it comes to unforseen expenses, and usually our vehicle is our only asset (electronics depreciate too much to count as asset in my books)

Given that it can be assumed to not be skidmark, WHO THE ARE YOU RAGING AT IN THIS THREAD????
They presumably wanted a viffer, or they would have taken another bike. Theifs dont care who you are, only what you've got.

While i like the sound of locks, do these particular ones screech if you get near the bike? or only if you tamper with them?

[Slyer]

Only if you move them.