Uni bike thefts

[Timati]

The idea of the SMC looking out for shady characters seems to be an ideal solution although like a few pointed out earlier, you don't tend find too many people willing to approach someone they think might be possibly pinching a bike. I still think the Uni. should take more responsibility. What's next on the list after bikes ...cars, harassing students...etc..It has to start somewhere. I don't quite seem to get why the Uni. would be hesitant to invest in a few more additional cameras (that actually work). It benefits them as well as students. Am sure that if somewhere were to suggest reporting this to the news, the Uni. would be rushing to go out there to get those cameras...

[skidMark]

bloody moderation of post causing them to slip in late



IF, mr troll, you do infact know about this, could you kindly inform me of where my bike is? i really am finding myself well and truly rooted thanks to these dickheads - costing over a hundred bucks a week in petrol, might not finish this assignment in time due to bike shopping, and can't delay bike shopping due to aforementioned financial disaster fast restricting my choice of bike


seriously, of all the people to steal from why the fuck would you pick on students? We're possibly one of the most vulnerable groups when it comes to unforseen expenses, and usually our vehicle is our only asset (electronics depreciate too much to count as asset in my books)

You answered it yourself, it is simple vunerability.

You think a thief cares, you guys are easy pickings, the opportunity is there so they take it.

I do not know where your bike is sorry.

[Hanne]

I would rather have someone come up to me if they were worried about my actions around a bike....
If it is mine and I am pushing it (yes, has happened severla times) it is nice to get a hand, if someone's trying ot rip it off you can usually tell after a few friendly questions about the bike. And that is when cell phones are useful.

Not saying this is the only way to go, just that you shouldn't be scared to t approach people. Most of them are actually quite nice.

[skidMark]

Mr SkidMark:

Should you actually know something more than is in your post (as you allude), I trust you are talking to the Police and any parties concerned. I'm sure any information would be welcome. It is your duty as a concerned citizen and fellow motorcyclist.

Otherwise, you are trolling around a sensitive subject in a rather ill-mannered way.

How would you feel if someone 'nicked' your pride and joy and someone had the lack of courtesy to use your misfortune as an exercise in trolling?

Engage thy brain.



^^^Depends on your policy wording and varies from insurer to insurer. READ that policy document closely people. It is the heart of your contract with your insurer.

My post only stated facts that are known to me.

I do not have enough to pin these guys down as yet, they are a friend of my friends friend...

I can get bikes back possibly, but it takes a few days and it basically has to be my bike, can't get them for randoms... I have tried before...

Wish there was more i could do guys, the only way i know what i do is because drunk people sometimes bring up topics that they shouldn't...

I have said too much as it is.

Now you know everything i do, so don't make me feel like the cunt here, i gave you extra information which i could have not given.

Gift horse....mouth.

[Patar]

Take things too seriously? This is one of the very few times where we take something seriously, yet now someone's bike has been stolen less than a week ago and you're saying we should turn it into a joke?

One person makes an innocent joke and he gets snapped at, I didn't say it wasn't a serious issue.

This "whining" on the internet is called discussing options and strategies we can take to do something about the situation.

When this one event seems to have spawned three separate 'discussions' ( discussion used loosely as I doubt "lets smash 'em bro" qualifies).

Set up a sting? As in organise our own txt2bash program, or install our own cameras? Oh just like we've been talking about doing within our "whining"?

A 'txt2bash' program as you so eloquently put it, is a stupid plan and most of you here know it. There will likely be more of them than you.
I would suggest luring with bait and getting photographic evidence of the act in progress and approaching the coppers with this information.

So we shouldn't bother talking to Uni about getting some form of bike locks down in OGG? It's not worth even trying? Or a working camera in the staff car park? Na not worth it. Just fend for ourselves ay?

You can talk to the uni, but I'm not holding my breath for any swift action to be taken.
To take immediate positive action, I would first start informing the 2 wheelers on campus of this activity and warning them that vulnerable bikes are targeted by use of flyers and posters. I would probably also tell them to approach anyone acting suspiciously and give them a phone number of one of stephen or someone, possibly even directing them to this forum.

Protecting an uninformed public won't have as much of an affect as if they knew what was going on underneath their noses.

[HungusMaximist]

When this one event seems to have spawned three separate 'discussions' ( discussion used loosely as I doubt "lets smash 'em bro" qualifies).

A 'txt2bash' program as you so eloquently put it, is a stupid plan and most of you here know it. There will likely be more of them than you.
I would suggest luring with bait and getting photographic evidence of the act in progress and approaching the coppers with this information.

Text2bash scheme was a piss take mate and we were using as a lighthearted banter to let the wider public know our frustrations and that we were all very serious about this. Still, it's a step in the right direction as we had to get the idea ball rolling some how.

Like you mentioned, a more practical approach would be setting some sort of sting and getting photographic/video evidence and then chasing them after it. Another KB member mentioned a GPS unit hidden in the bike and while this is all good, implementing these ideas is totally another story. You said it yourself, I won't be holding my breath either for the Uni or anybody to do jack about it.

Best thing I can recommend all is take preventive measures, by installing a disc lock (shitty you may call it but it may just make the difference) or cable lock it to something stationary. And also start spreading the word around that thieves are on the prowl. The club could even make up a poster and do a poster round around uni highlighting the risks, just like the ones you get in shopping center carparks 'lock it or lose it'.

End of the day, you make the choice of whether to do something about it and I reckon as a club we should advocate bike security and do our bit for the people that got their bikes nicked.

The thieves still deserves a bash though.

[Ragingrob]

One person makes an innocent joke and he gets snapped at, I didn't say it wasn't a serious issue.

There's a time and a place. Anyway, I dunno if Kim was even just joking when he snapped at Banzai

When this one event seems to have spawned three separate 'discussions' ( discussion used loosely as I doubt "lets smash 'em bro" qualifies).

I believe a lot more has been discussed than "lets smash 'em bro". By the way, it's "bash", not "smash"... Big difference!

A 'txt2bash' program as you so eloquently put it, is a stupid plan and most of you here know it. There will likely be more of them than you.

Maybe you don't quite understand what the txt2bash scheme is all about, it's actually about spying something suspicious going on at Uni and getting in contact with others to try and put together a preventative action.

For such a "stupid" plan, it does make people a lot more aware of what's happening and keep an eye out for certain things.

The R1 that parks on Symonds got saved by someone keeping an eye out last year I'm pretty sure.

I would suggest luring with bait and getting photographic evidence of the act in progress and approaching the coppers with this information.

You would suggest.... What?! We've been talking about the camera idea the entire time, and yes I think that we would need to talk with the Uni even if we wanted to install our own cameras.

Bait? So you're gonna donate a bike to the thieves for us?

You can talk to the uni, but I'm not holding my breath for any swift action to be taken.

As above... We would need to talk to them even if we want to install our own cameras or our own kind of communal locking system.

To take immediate positive action, I would first start informing the 2 wheelers on campus of this activity and warning them that vulnerable bikes are targeted by use of flyers and posters.

Well Andrew did request for us to put his flyer up on lecture projectors in order to hopefully gain any more knowledge about the event. That would've acted as an informant that maybe we should be cautious. I assume that you aided us by spreading the flyer and word of this?

I would probably also tell them to approach anyone acting suspiciously and give them a phone number of one of stephen or someone, possibly even directing them to this forum.

Give the thief Stephen's number and direct them to the forum? Lol jokes... but this sounds suspiciously like the txt2bash scheme!

Protecting an uninformed public won't have as much of an affect as if they knew what was going on underneath their noses.

Point taken, I know where you're coming from and I do agree. But it's easy to talk the talk and not walk the walk, if ya know what I mean.

It's not exactly aiding us when someone makes light of the situation (and no I'm not putting this all on you), and says things which imply not even bothering mentioning it to Uni etc.


On a more serious note

We just wanna riiiiiiide, and now poor Andrew can't do just that on his beloved vifferari

[BANZAI]

maybe I shouldn't have posted that comment, but I alredy told that to Andrew when I saw him and he was laughing at it so I thought maybe its ok to post in here........

[motorbyclist]

I would first start informing the 2 wheelers on campus of this activity and warning them that vulnerable bikes are targeted by use of flyers and posters. I

Protecting an uninformed public won't have as much of an affect as if they knew what was going on underneath their noses.

+1

the flyer i had put up at lectures and posted up around uni parking spots actually has a note to that effect

[bomma]

last year i saw the r1 getting stolen and used the txt2bash scheme and managed to scare away the fucks...got their licence plate and called the cops. there apparently had been a traffic cop sittin at one of the off-ramps near symonds st but yet that unit did nothing while the car kept driving up and down symonds st. im not even sure if the cops showed up in the end. the car turned out to be stolen and the matter was dropped.

my point here is that from my experiences, it is ABSOLUTELY USELESS calling the cops. and im not saying that we should enforce our own "Rob Norris" law but in all seriousness if a "sting-operation" were to be setup and a bike taken, no matter how much video evidence you have, the cops probably wont be able to do anything with it.

from my point of view, prevention is better than the cure. lock your bikes and use as many deterrants as you possbily can. obviously the old myth of "park it next to a more valuable bike" is just that, a myth. no bikes an exception. when you ride, you know that everyone's out to kill you. similarly, when you park, know that your bike is a target for some muppet, cock-sucking asshole whose goal in life is to suck cock and take it up the arse.

[Ragingrob]

+1

the flyer i had put up at lectures and posted up around uni parking spots actually has a note to that effect

Yip definitely, whole lectures would go quiet and read it then all talk about it. I got people telling me how horrible it is etc!

[Ragingrob]

maybe I shouldn't have posted that comment, but I alredy told that to Andrew when I saw him and he was laughing at it so I thought maybe its ok to post in here........

Hey na man don't worry. It wasn't really the 'joke' or the 'lightening of things' that hit a nerve. It was just the whole...

Ah don't worry lol I've gone overboard



All good Patar

Yep let's lock our bikes as best we can, keep an eye out for anything suspicious, and discuss some surveillance/security ideas over a beer at the chiller

[motorbyclist]

i agree;

more beer!

[skidMark]

Excuse my ignorence, but this thread i made and all posts contained in it have been helpful giving advice and any information i had to help out.

I have tried to help.

So then why is it i am getting alot of red rep?

I could have kept information i had to myself. Did i? No...

Great to see the appreciation guys truely really thats just great.

Don't think i will bother coming to the chiller now.

Skid.

[Slyer]

Yeah, so much for not coming eh?