Has New Zealand gone soft?

[DMNTD:Me]

Real winners Chinese style - sports agencies seek out small children who look like they may have potential. They go into state funded sporting academies where they are 'developed" for a particular discipline, with very little emphasis on anything else. Children who fail to "make the cut" are ruthlessly weeded out. They get dumped, and having had virtually no education in anything other then their selected sport, they are effectively unemployable.
The ones who do perform are groomed further for sporting prowess, and compete until such time as they no longer are winners. At that point they also get dumped. Apparently every Chinese Olympic medal has cost the country several million dollars.
Sounds like a real good scheme and one NZ should aspire to. (Tui)

Tui?? I think not IMO. It's pretty much the way of the work force too. Keep getting better at your job or someone else will do it for you.

[Grahameeboy]

Its not the first time but when he was younger he seemed to get the concept.
I guess its a case of -well Dad says and shows me this way. but all the teachers at school are saying /doing the oposite.
The mindset frightens me. and I've noticed it more and more in the 15-20year olds. Its become --Ohh I want it all I want it now and if I can't have it I'll throw a tanty. But if its too hard to acheive I'll just give up
Sport at the moment is a reflection of this I feel.

Nats plays football and she doesn't have a cats chance of making the 1st grade....but she still wants to play and the school encourage it...

[Grahameeboy]

Tui?? I think not IMO. It's pretty much the way of the work force too. Keep getting better at your job or someone else will do it for you.

Can I have your job please....

[FROSTY:Me]

Nothing...that was my point...particpation is the key

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Im not disagreeing that at step 1 just getting them trying it is important.--er uvverwise I wouldn't have bovvered
But from that point on --from there the desire to win is important

[DMNTD:Me]

Complacency and acceptance scares the fark out of me

[DMNTD:Me]

Can I have your job please....

If you can do my job better than me...yes

[Grahameeboy]

Complacency and acceptance scares the fark out of me

Like slow speeds you mean

[FROSTY:Me]

Tui?? I think not IMO. It's pretty much the way of the work force too. Keep getting better at your job or someone else will do it for you.

Dude you dont work in local gubbinment. There the way to get a payrise and get priomoted is to be demonstrably INcompintent. --the worse you are the higher you go

[Grahameeboy]

If you can do my job better than me...yes

Okay..you WIN....I think I am getting the concept...

[DMNTD:Me]

Dude you dont work in local gubbinment. There the way to get a payrise and get priomoted is to be demonstrably INcompintent. --the worse you are the higher you go

Yeah but I was referring to the work FORCE...not farce

[MSTRS:Me]

Interesting thread....
My take is that life is a competition, with winners and losers. On many levels.
Sports, where one person/team is pitted against another, is just civilised war. You don't 'participate' in war. You win (live) or lose (die). Did our boys (and girls) call out to Hitler that it wasn't about winning, but taking part?
The defence rests....

[Firefight]

Interesting thread....
My take is that life is a competition, with winners and losers. On many levels.
Sports, where one person/team is pitted against another, is just civilised war. You don't 'participate' in war. You win (live) or lose (die). Did our boys (and girls) call out to Hitler that it wasn't about winning, but taking part?
The defence rests....

totally agree, dam good point !!!!! rep well earnt




F/F

[portokiwi]

Ohhh That is SOOOOOOOO Good.

[eurodick]

Womans?? Gymn hmmmmmmmmmmm all the WOMAN I know are older than 12!! Yeha wait till we have MX as an Olympics sport ahhahahhah should just be track and field or at least just individual sports.. then maybe we might be able to afford to hold it here??? Even Nen Zud can do CGI opening ceremonies, with some ugly kids voice dubbed over for some pretty little kid to sing....
But look I digress!!! Yes second place is first loser and Second is what Helen will be come election time.... second is good, look at war we won Germany got second, Japan got bronze yay thanks for participating!!! The point is who cares!!! We need Allblacks who eat raw meat and are prepared to kill for our glory because from my vantage point on the couch after a hard days ride they all look a bit soft to me... yeah they might be bulked up but in the immortal words of Jake the Muss " to many weights not enough speed work" hope they can do the deal tonight!!! I'll be sleeping cos some of us have to actually go and race tomorrow.

[FROSTY:Me]

Interesting thread....
My take is that life is a competition, with winners and losers. On many levels.
Sports, where one person/team is pitted against another, is just civilised war. You don't 'participate' in war. You win (live) or lose (die). Did our boys (and girls) call out to Hitler that it wasn't about winning, but taking part?
The defence rests....

BINGO matey.