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    Quote Originally Posted by Slingshot
    Someone check the harbour.
    It was still there before and after it happened cos I can see it from my desk on the 12th floor - bit of a wobble aye!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bane
    God, who'd live in wellington... (says the man who aspires to live in Hamilhole...)
    hush yo' mouth, me and my dogg Suga Rotten here, reckon that Wellington is super fly! ... right Suga Rotten?
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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneChucker
    I noticed that too. A 5.0 quake is twice as stong as a 4.0 quake, and so on, so you can only imagine what a 9.1 feels like. Lets hope that never happens here, or we'll all have instant water features in our houses.
    Except our water (well the main Wgtn supply anyway) crosses the fault line 5 times before it gets into Wgtn, so the water features wouldn't last too long!

    Quote Originally Posted by StoneChucker
    How can someone own a fault? That'd be cool I reckon, I'm gonna buy me a fault line tomorrow.

    Do you get a red button with it?
    You can! My neighbours own a big chunk of the Wgtn Fault line - From the Karori Sanctuary to the south coast. I'd have to ask about the red button though.


    Heh - I was hammering a picture hook into the wall today and the whole wall gave quite a significant shake - it all makes sense now. I only found out that we'd been having earthquakes about 2 hours ago. I always miss them

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    Holy shit, I haven't felt ANY of these (including the 1.38pm one!) Thank goodness....I get very nervous when they happen.

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    There was a program on history channel recently where the chap is talking about earthquakes. Behind him is a computer thats showing recent ones around the world. NZ and japan have dots flashing on them twice as fast as the rest of the world was.
    The contents of this post are my opinion and may not be subjected to any form of reality
    It means I'm not an authority or a teacher, and may not have any experience so take things with a pinch of salt (a.k.a bullshit) rather than fact

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    mmmmm not enjoying Wellington on the 20th floor right now!! Have just been filling the "survival" water bottles under my desk, man 8 years can make sealed water pretty rancid!!

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    Look. I dunno how sensible or true this is but it made perfect sense to me.. But I ride a crappy old Guzzi so.. Any way...

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    EXTRACT FROM DOUG COPP'S ARTICLE ON THE "TRIANGLE OF LIFE", Edited by Larry Linn for MAA Safety Committee brief on 4/13/04.

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    My name is Doug Copp. I am the Rescue Chief and Disaster Manager of the American Rescue Team International (ARTI), the world's most experienced rescue team. The information in this article will save lives in an earthquake.

    I have crawled inside 875 collapsed buildings, worked with rescue teams from 60 countries, founded rescue teams in several countries, and I am a member of many rescue teams from many countries. I was the United Nations expert in Disaster Mitigation for two years. I have worked at every major disaster in the world since 1985, except for simultaneous disasters.

    In 1996 we made a film which proved my survival methodology to be correct.

    The Turkish Federal Government, City of Istanbul, University of Istanbul Case Productions and ARTI cooperated to film this practical, scientific test. We collapsed a school and a home with 20 mannequins inside. Ten mannequins did "duck and cover," and ten mannequins I used in my "triangle of life" survival method. After the simulated earthquake collapse we crawled through the rubble and entered the building to film and document the results. The film, in which I practiced my survival techniques under directly observable, scientific conditions, relevant to building collapse, showed there would have been zero percent survival for those doing duck and cover. There would likely have been 100 percent survivability for people using my method of the "triangle of life." This film has been seen by millions of viewers on television in Turkey and the rest of Europe, and it was seen in the USA, Canada and Latin America on the TV program Real TV.

    The first building I ever crawled inside of was a school in Mexico City during the 1985 earthquake. Every child was under their desk. Every child was crushed to the thickness of their bones. They could have survived by lying down next to their desks in the aisles. It was obscene, unnecessary and I wondered why the children were not in the aisles. I didn't at the time know that the children were told to hide under something.

    Simply stated, when buildings collapse, the weight of the ceilings falling upon the objects or furniture inside crushes these objects, leaving a space or void next to them. This space is what I call the "triangle of life". The larger the object, the stronger, the less it will compact. The less the object compacts, the larger the void, the greater the probability that the person who is using this void for safety will not be injured. The next time you watch collapsed buildings, on television, count the "triangles" you see formed. They are everywhere. It is the most common shape, you will see, in a collapsed building. They are everywhere.

    TEN TIPS FOR EARTHQUAKE SAFETY

    1) Most everyone who simply "ducks and covers" WHEN BUILDINGS COLLAPSE are crushed to death. People who get under objects, like desks or cars, are crushed.

    2) Cats, dogs and babies often naturally curl up in the fetal position. You should too in an earthquake. It is a natural safety/survival instinct. You can survive in a smaller void. Get next to an object, next to a sofa, next to a large bulky object that will compress slightly but leave a void next to
    it.

    3) Wooden buildings are the safest type of construction to be in during an earthquake. Wood is flexible and moves with the force of the earthquake. If the wooden building does collapse, large survival voids are created. Also, the wooden building has less concentrated, crushing weight. Brick buildings will
    break into individual bricks. Bricks will cause many injuries but less squashed bodies than concrete slabs.

    4) If you are in bed during the night and an earthquake occurs, simply roll off the bed. A safe void will exist around the bed. Hotels can achieve a much greater survival rate in earthquakes, simply by posting a sign on the back of the door of every room telling occupants to lie down on the floor, next to the bottom of the bed during an earthquake.

    5) If an earthquake happens and you cannot easily escape by getting out the door or window, then lie down and curl up in the fetal position next to a sofa, or large chair.

    6) Most everyone who gets under a doorway when buildings collapse is killed.

    How? If you stand under a doorway and the doorjamb falls forward or backward you will be crushed by the ceiling above. If the door jam falls sideways you will be cut in half by the doorway. In either case, you will be killed!

    7) Never go to the stairs. The stairs have a different "moment of frequency" (they swing separately from the main part of the building). The stairs and remainder of the building continuously bump into each other until structural failure of the stairs takes place. The people who get on stairs before they fail are chopped up by the stair treads - horribly mutilated. Even if the building doesn't collapse, stay away from the stairs. The stairs are a likely part of the building to be damaged. Even if the stairs are not collapsed by the earthquake, they may collapse later when overloaded by fleeing people. They should always be checked for safety, even when the rest of the building is not damaged.

    8) Get Near the Outer Walls Of Buildings Or Outside Of Them If Possible - It is much better to be near the outside of the building rather than the interior. The farther inside you are from the outside perimeter of the building the greater the probability that your escape route will be blocked;

    9) People inside of their vehicles are crushed when the road above falls in an earthquake and crushes their vehicles; which is exactly what happened with the slabs between the decks of the Nimitz Freeway. The victims of the San Francisco earthquake all stayed inside of their vehicles. They were all killed. They could have easily survived by getting out and sitting or lying next to their vehicles. Everyone killed would have survived if they had been able to get out of their cars and sit or lie next to them. All the crushed cars had voids 3 feet high next to them, except for the cars that had columns fall directly across them.

    10) I discovered, while crawling inside of collapsed newspaper offices and other offices with a lot of paper, that paper does not compact. Large voids are found surrounding stacks of paper.

    Spread the word and save someone's life...

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    Were they strong enought to knock a bike over? I just left welly on Tuesday so just missed out.
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    Ohhhh, bloody schools, trying to off me. I'm going to print this out and show it to them. And then ask what they have against us.

    Thanks Paul!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul in NZ
    Look. I dunno how sensible or true this is but it made perfect sense to me.. But I ride a crappy old Guzzi so.. Any way...

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    EXTRACT FROM DOUG COPP'S ARTICLE ON THE "TRIANGLE OF LIFE", Edited by Larry Linn for MAA Safety Committee brief on 4/13/04.

    Http://www.amerrescue.org/

    My name is Doug Copp. I am the Rescue Chief and Disaster Manager of the American Rescue Team International (ARTI), the world's most experienced rescue team. The information in this article will save lives in an earthquake.

    etc ...
    For you info you might wanna check this link out:
    http://www.snopes.com/crime/warnings/triangle.asp

    Apparently he isn't thought much of by other experts.

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