Track Days at Taupo: 10th Feb and 14th April

[Coyote]

Why is it restricted to 30 people?

[Ms Piggy]

It isn't a troll.

Thats Bullshit!!! The first one is co-ed right? So, why the fuck is the second ladies only?

Jim & Stoney - I'll always love you both but NEVER agree with you on this point.

See my comments to another post by Stoney about women only gyms

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=6578

[James Deuce]

Jim & Stoney - I'll always love you both but NEVER agree with you on this point.

See my comments to another post by Stoney about women only gyms

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=6578

I did see those, and I still don't see how that justifies gender discrimination.

Men's clubs have been closed down or forced to accept female members. Why is it OK for women to open women only clubs? Or indeed men to open women's only clubs as is the case with Contours.

It isn't. This is exactly the same as making a cafe whites only.

[Hoon]

Gender discrimination is political correctness gone mad. It only works in one direction. There would be a huge outcry from WIMA if I organised a men only track day, excluding family members and ANY other women from attending.

Yep you are totally right, it only works one way and this is to protect/not disadvantage the minority.

Like I said, I don't have any problem with this as I can see the benefits it offers women riders. I couldn't care less about the politics. Theres countless other track days I could go to and I'm not about to rain on their parade because I can't organise a mens only winery piss-up.

If it upsets you maybe you should voice your concerns to:

- the organisers
- your MP
- or your local "Mens Liberation" representative

[James Deuce]

Yep you are totally right, it only works one way and this is to protect/not disadvantage the minority.

Like I said, I don't have any problem with this as I can see the benefits it offers women riders. I couldn't care less about the politics. Theres countless other track days I could go to and I'm not about to rain on their parade because I can't organise a mens only winery piss-up.

If it upsets you maybe you should voice your concerns to:

- the organisers
- your MP
- or your local "Mens Liberation" representative

They're not a minority! Women have a population bias in their favour.

I was giving a facetious example, not an opportunity for you to get the knives out. I noticed you picked up on the least meaningful example.

One is obviously not allowed to debate gender discrimination. Has anyone read Susan Faludi, or any other 3rd wave feminist author, or are you all firmly entrenched in Germaine Greer's mindset?

We need to get rid of the us and them approach in gender politics. I am not an advocate of Men's Liberation as that is just an attempt to turn back the clock to the previous paradigm. Instead of taking the piss you should try and understand your opponents views a little better.

[claire]

I thought a woman's only track day was a good idea (but I would say that being a woman and all). I can also guarantee that I (and I speak for myself only) wouldn't get upset if there was a mens only track day organised or a racers only track day organised, for whatever reason. I know a lot of woman learning to ride a bike would benefit a great amount from a track/training day (having attended myself) but wouldn't as they would possibly be intimidated taking to the track with a lot of possibly more experienced men. I've attended track days on both my previous and current bike and the reaction from the men is rather humerous. When I rode a 600 sports tourer I was accepted, coached, assisted and helped even when I hadn't asked a question or indicated that I was in need of help. The one and only time I've been to a track day on the R1 I was barely spoken to, my bike came under huge scrutiny for its suspension settings and no one was forthcoming with any help or advice. If you want a mens only track day go ahead and organise one!

[White trash]

If you want a mens only track day go ahead and organise one!

Anyone that takes Claire up on this offer, is gonna get a thorough arse kicking from me.

Ain't nuthin' better'n following some saucy bird in a tight fitting "one piece" for a few laps!

[Drunken Monkey]

...Ain't nuthin' better'n following some saucy bird in a tight fitting "one piece" for a few laps!

Since when did you ever do any of the following? You're always too busy showing off at the front

[jrandom]

The one and only time I've been to a track day on the R1 I was barely spoken to, my bike came under huge scrutiny for its suspension settings and no one was forthcoming with any help or advice.

Bahahahahaha!

FEEL the willy-shrinkage...

[White trash]

Since when did you ever do any of the following? You're always too busy showing off at the front

Well put.

But did you not wonder how come it takes so long for me to "lap" women riders?

[Slipstream]

Well put.

But did you not wonder how come it takes so long for me to "lap" women riders?

Fashion tips?

[bungbung]

Well put.

But did you not wonder how come it takes so long for me to "lap" women riders?

Is it because the women riders like to have you lapping them for a long time?

[White trash]

Is it because the women riders like to have you lapping them for a long time?

Who've you been talking to?

[Ms Piggy]

I did see those, and I still don't see how that justifies gender discrimination.

Men's clubs have been closed down or forced to accept female members. Why is it OK for women to open women only clubs? Or indeed men to open women's only clubs as is the case with Contours.

It isn't. This is exactly the same as making a cafe whites only.

I don't care that the boys clubs have been shut down, I don't care that men have to now contend with women only events cos women have had to put up with that shit for years - grumpy short version (a bit like me really).

I don't have a personally don't have a problem with men only or women only events. Men and women are different and have different strengths.

Equity and equality are different.

Sometimes a certain group has to be treated differently to get the same outcome. I know you don't agree with this statement either but, it's what I believe.

[White trash]

Sometimes a certain group has to be treated differently to get the same outcome. I know you don't agree with this statement either but, it's what I believe.

Strangely, I understand completely. I have no problem with a women only trackday, where I would have with a mens only trackday.

Whereas if they had a women only carridge on a train, I'd become a cross dresser just to see what goes on in there