Cool, it doesn't say anywhere that I can't go for a watch and a chatup. I am not their boyfriend/husband/partnerOriginally Posted by Lynda Blair
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Cool, it doesn't say anywhere that I can't go for a watch and a chatup. I am not their boyfriend/husband/partnerOriginally Posted by Lynda Blair
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I don't get it. I never will. I have a natural abhorrence for the artificial application of intellectual theory at the expense of natural justice, freedom, and reason. It is no different to describing polynesians as savages so they can be dehumanised and their concepts and philosphy of life belittled so Imperialists can impose their concept of ownership. It is a very lax mental attitude that reflects years of social programming, not individual thought or free will.Originally Posted by Celtic_Sea_lily
It is Stalinist socialism in practice.
If a man is alone in the woods and there isn't a woke Hollywood around to call him racist, is he still white?
what aboput the 'natural justice, freedom, and reason' that for years said a womans place was in the home or that Maori were savages etc, etc. You can't deny the facts and the history and just tell people who have been belittled for years to "get over it" and then get the pip when they are singled out as a way of bringing about equity.Originally Posted by Jim2
Thats where I'm coming from.
Sorry guys & gals this is veryHey Jim2 maybe we can discuss this elsewhere
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My goal in life is to be as good a person as my dog already thinks I am.
Within a very short scope of recent history within our culture that is true. The facts as you mention them are that up until 250 years ago 99.9999995% of men in Western Europe and North America couldn't vote or own property either.Originally Posted by Celtic_Sea_lily
So you'd rather see the pendulum swing completely the other way than try to contribute to developing a society that acknowledges its past mistakes and endeavours to avoid them in future?
That's nothing but petty vengeance. I thought tit for tat was something we were supposed to be leaving behind, or has the ethnic vengeance/reparation industry migrated to the modern feminist argument?
If a man is alone in the woods and there isn't a woke Hollywood around to call him racist, is he still white?
You go girl !!!.......er, ummmmOriginally Posted by Jim2
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Do you realise how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them?
Keep my tits out of it!Originally Posted by Jim2
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My whole view is that I don't believe society does acknowledge their mistakes fully or endeavour to avoid them. Very general statement I know but, overall I think society is still riddled with racisim and sexism that just boils under the surface instead of being quite so open.
I understand what you are saying Jim but, I don't agree with you.
My goal in life is to be as good a person as my dog already thinks I am.
So the direct result is we perpetuate the same old mistakes instead of educating. Except with a different bias. And that's my point. WE'RE ARGUING THE SAME GODDAM THING.Originally Posted by Celtic_Sea_lily
It was your tats I was dragging into the argument.
If a man is alone in the woods and there isn't a woke Hollywood around to call him racist, is he still white?
Since it wasn't YOU that was discriminated against 20, 50 or 200 years ago, why must I be discriminated against now? Do you think having an opposite bias for 20, 50 or 200 years is going to balance it all out, and after that we can make everything equal? I suspect that after that time, men would be as pissed off as women are now, and swing it back to the opposite end of the spectrum for another indefinite period of time. Do you see a pattern here?
Why is it so ludicrous to suggest that the people of today (who largely have experienced NO discrimination, and often are experiencing preferential treatment) just let the past be just that, and start trying to make the human race, for once, equal? Now, I don't mean forget about the past, as that would make the future generation susceptible to making the same mistakes!
Or, is it that living as equals would take the benefit away from certain groups who are now experiencing the majority of life's benefits?
*EDIT* Btw, I luv ya Cathy, life would be boring if everyone agreedJust in case you didn't know
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My dearest Stoney - my whole argument is based on my belief that women still are not treated with equity. I don't argue for equality b/c men & women are different and therefore cannot have equality but, equity. Equity sometimes means that a miniroty group needed to be treated differently. In this case women that ride motorcycles and may otherwise feel intimidated or just plain silly. Me for one.Originally Posted by StoneChucker
I dunno how to explain it further except to say that I have been discriminated against cos of my gender, as have other womne - read the posts within that thread you started luvvy.
My goal in life is to be as good a person as my dog already thinks I am.
But how can you educate people who don't wanna know? Like with the Treaty (oh no here we go!) people don't wanna know the facts - they just want to bandy about opinion.Originally Posted by Jim2
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My goal in life is to be as good a person as my dog already thinks I am.
I can definitely see your point regarding equity. I just think in 200 years, white males will be the ones fighting for equity...Originally Posted by Celtic_Sea_lily
I guess I was making my arguements as if we were living in a perfect world. That is quite obviously not the case.
I think the BEST solution is for all of us to go riding this weekend, how's sunday for you(Friday, Saturday and Monday too
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I can see the point being made re the womens only rider training day but I totally disagree.
rather than a gender based split in the training days I think it would be better aiming at those with a lower confidence level be they male or female.
Every reason I've seen applied for a womens only track day applies to riders of a lower experience level or confidence level.
Fear of looking stupid applies just as much to blokes as to females ya know.
I do agree that partners/spectators shouldn't be there -yes it can add to the tension -and stress levels.
To see a life newly created.To watch it grow and prosper. Isn't that the greatest gift a human being can be given?
Bloody hell....... 10th of Feb is too close to get time off for.
14th April I can probably manage......
I only want to improve my riding.....
So can we grow up and let everyone come.
Please.
Pity it was a thursday, some of us gotta work! 8-(
a mixed day & a gals day, sounds good to me, will we be required to present written proof of gender? or will there be a patdown at the gate?
..it's another red light nightmare..
so any KB's going on the 10th?
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