Annoying Christian sayings

[kickingzebra]

arts papers? ah no, you'll find them in the college of sciences

and incidentally, i've never cooked fries in my life

it's nice to have an education, i know stuff, and i get paid for it

I have seen and observed that these disciplines are situated within the college of sciences, so right you are, HOWEVER I am still struggling to find a darwinist who is more than about 90 years old, much less several (hundreds of) billions of years old.

Maths, science, or religion; a faulty assumption, coupled with observable fact will very rarely produce a matter of fact, no matter how well dressed.

Your "moral" viewpoint says an education earns you kudos, respect, earning power, and a stunning in errancy in fact.

Pray tell, what is the difference from blue eyed savage cutting and pasting Christian apologists, and scientists, and you regurgitating your university professors and the curriculum writers thoughts?

Does it compound matters for you to know that many of the creationists and apologists are in fact professors of higher education facilities themselves?

Precious few here have the time, research facilities, knowledge, or inclination to actually pursue the truth for themselves, which in turn implies that the most vehement of us on either side of the God debate is still at best a regurgitator, and at worst, a badly studied one.

Why then the vehemence and antagonism, may I remind you fine upright and upstanding bastions of scientific thought on here, that Galileo was a fool, Einstein was a retard, and Columbus a moron according to the well researched scientific dogma of the day, and does anyone sincerely think that we are so much wiser than those that lived 4 or 5 centuries ago?

The annals of history will record this as a great period of learning, coupled with some incredibly stupid conclusions based on the (scant) available fact.

Both sides of the ledger are undoubtedly incorrect in many of their assumptions.

Grahameeboy is right, Christians are the whole gammut of stupid, and yet, as a cross section of general populance, we are really no different percentagewise in our stupidity...

Watch out people, the educated dumb has you..


(those that can't do, teach!)

[Big Dave]

God bless Joe!
At least George knows for sure or not now.


http://www.americanhumanist.org/about/manifesto1.html

[kickingzebra]

God bless Joe!
At least George knows for sure or not now.


http://www.americanhumanist.org/about/manifesto1.html

Brilliant, take the bible, remove all reference to God, remove the concept of life, and then judgement, the just arbitrator no longer has rule over what we do or do not do, so do right because we should foster the growth of humanity....

Why?

Humanism in any guise, only has the object of railing against the one who can be called greater than us.

Why is man so hellbent on proving we are the preeminent species? That our greatness is the peak of universal greatness?


If christianity is such a poor an idea, then why do so many spend an inordinate amount of time trying to discredit it?

Surely if it is so weak, then as a child seeing snow where there is none, one might play along for a while, and then quietly ignore the childs' flight of fancy?

However, if the real issue is the blackness within each and every soul, and the desire for justification, then each and every opportunity to refute someone else's beliefs, adds weight, or perhaps removes the spotlight from the evil each must face within themselves.

A strong refutation of the stated belief of said religious humanists, is the response within this thread. The assertion is that it is within mans best interests to foster humanity, and grow goodwill. The extension of which is that man is of course, basically good at heart, less the complications.

Christianity does not maintain this illusion, christianity seeks to dispel it in fact, and condemns you before you even open your mouth in word, or move your hand to deed. Your condemnation is so deep, that no purgatory can atone, no action can make good, your sentence is entirely just, and your own thoughts and actions add weight to the condemnation.

The True Christian has accepted, understood, and feared the depths of his own soul, his own depravity condemns him, and in the face of a final judgement, has thrown himself on the mercy of the final judge, not as a get out of jail free ticket, but as the last vestige of good within seeks to throw off the oppression of all the action and thought judged as evil.

God is not the actions of Christians, God is not just the words contained within (whichever version floats your boat of) the bible, God is the ultimate bringer of rightness. And separator of all which is not right.

The message therefore, is to chikkity check yo self, before you wreck yoself. If you don't like what you see, you can spend a lifetime trying to change it, and though small changes may evidence themselves, the ultimate goal post is set beyond your vision, much less beyond your reach.

The question is, in the light of a Right God, who knows your thoughts and actions, what will you do? What can you do?

It is foremost an individual problem. Pretending there is nothing, does not neccesarily alleviate the impending doom now does it?

[Headbanger]

Jesus Christ, More fluff then in a pillow factory.

[Big Dave]

>> Why is man so hellbent on proving we are the preeminent species? That our greatness is the peak of universal greatness?<<

Interesting. I read it as we've outgrown fairy tales.

[Max Headroom]

This thread is rubbish (apart from Graham's initial post). I hope the mods have the sense to give it its own space in PD instead of dumping it on top of the Scottish thread.

3, 2, 1...

Agree completely. Although I must admit I'm struggling to see the relevance of introducing this thread in the first place....

This is a thread with nothing whatsoever to recommend it. It's just an argument conducted by folk who enjoy arguing about religion with no likely conclusion in sight, let alone any of those involved changing their point of view. Quite sad, really.

If this was about what God has done for someone specifically, that would be different. Faith has the power to positively change peoples' lives. This thread is miles away from that outcome.

Can we talk about bikes instead please?

[Big Dave]

There should be a part in discussion forums for people to post about why they object to discussion in forums.

[Headbanger]

First I have to suffocate a few kittens, Then, Its all about the bikes.

Maybe I'll drink a pint of kitten blood while sitting on my bike.

[Headbanger]

There should be a part in discussion forums for people to post about why they object to discussion in forums.

I object to that notion.

[sinfull]

I'm watching the young and the restless on tv ! God help me

[gijoe1313]

Jebus saves! But Maradona scores on the rebound! It was the hand of Gawd!

[Big Dave]

Jebus saves! But Maradona scores on the rebound! It was the hand of Gawd!

A man's gotta believe in something. I believe I'll have another drink.

[Slyer]

Beer never fails!

[blue eyed savage]

dont mind the odd drink myself. now to find my flatmates home brew

[Bloody Mad Woman (BMW)]

From the time I was born I was told I was a sinner - well I figured if I've got the name I may as well play the game. I said to my father at about 13 - ok you get this guy that has "lived" according to the commandments etc, lived in hell fire and damnation - then you get the guy who has lived life to the full - on their death beds each says they are really sorry and forgiven - well hell ya don't have to be Einstein to figure out who had the most fun.

Unfortunately to some extent my partner is quite religious - I have told him I am not - I am into spirituality. I want to go and see him etc he says it will be in Gods time and God will provide - well I turned around and said Oh Yeah I can see God now just going to the travel office to arrange our flights. Felt like adding and make it first class baby.

Did you go to church today honey -= I told him I dont do church - so he sent me the day's "message" just about told him to f off - don't shove that shite down my throat - had enough of that with the Sperm Donor that fathered me.

I don't mind anyone believing in any religion they like but just don't foist it on me.