50cc Super Battle

**Del Fuego** · 4th June 2008, 16:08

Hey Guys,

This is a bit of an advert but it should help a few of the people who keep asking about which 50cc bike to buy. We have just completed our 2008 50cc "Superbattle" pitting 13 50cc scoots against one another back to back.

Read it here: http://www.thescooterreview.com/revi...mparison-tests

Enjoy

**tgb_novice** · 4th June 2008, 16:36

Yah that was a really nice handy and well done

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BTW was wondering if you could review the TGB 101s as well as I have it

and like it but want to get an expert opinion in comparison with the others out there

**Morcs** · 4th June 2008, 16:55

So why are there far superior scooters like the Gilera Runner and Piaggio NRG missing? not to mention the likes of the Yamaha Aerox, Gilera DNA and peugeot speedfight?

all of which are far superior in terms of performance (all will hit near 100kph) and are far more modifyable.

**Dave Lobster** · 4th June 2008, 19:45

Can a moped test really be described as 'super' without laughing?

**Pogo2** · 4th June 2008, 20:33

and cant wait for the maxi scooter review.

Just a question tho....
On the Honda Today page you said "throw in a gallon (3.8l)...etc. 3.8L is a US gallon (sometimes referred to as a short gallon) whereas NZ has been used to Imperial gallons of 4.5L in the past. So in fact for 1 gallon, your range would be even greater.

Nit picking bastard I know, but just wanted to let you know.

**DMNTD:Me** · 4th June 2008, 20:46

Originally Posted by Morcs

So why are there far superior scooters like the Gilera Runner and Piaggio NRG missing? not to mention the likes of the Yamaha Aerox, Gilera DNA and peugeot speedfight?

all of which are far superior in terms of performance (all will hit near 100kph) and are far more modifiable.

I guess because it was a review on 50cc scooters...
Great to see the Yamaha up on top...I sell a LOT of these wee scoots and yes i do own one

**davereid** · 4th June 2008, 21:11

Originally Posted by tgb_novice

Yah that was a really nice handy and well done

.

BTW was wondering if you could review the TGB 101s as well as I have it

and like it but want to get an expert opinion in comparison with the others out there

The guys who did the review tried hard, and its a nice web page. Like Morcs said, they didn't get their hands on some of the better scooters, so the value of the test is limited.

And of course, any test is subjective, so you are at the mercy of a reviewers opnion.

IMHO your TGB is the match of any scooter in the review, and as good as you will get anywhere, particularly for $2K.

TGB make half the bloody euro bikes anyway - whip the tranny off your next piaggio or peugeot and have a look.

None of the chinese bikes will do 5000km before they are f*cked, they just aren't well enough made. Electrics will crap out, plastic will rot in the sun, body panels won't fit or will break when you try and take them off. Then they get harder and harder to start, until you give up.

Check out the aussie 50cc endurance tests.

http://www.valleymotoscooters.com.au...9/Default.aspx

**Morcs** · 5th June 2008, 07:10

Originally Posted by DMNTD

I guess because it was a review on 50cc scooters...
Great to see the Yamaha up on top...I sell a LOT of these wee scoots and yes i do own one

they are all 50cc's.

in fact my first bike was a gilera dna 50. (2 stroke) did a genuine 100.

cool bike. would clean up all those in the test

**DMNTD:Me** · 5th June 2008, 07:15

Originally Posted by Morcs

they are all 50cc's.

in fact my first bike was a gilera dna 50. (2 stroke) did a genuine 100.

cool bike. would clean up all those in the test

Ahhhh indeed but some would claim that they are 50cc "motorbikes",I guess.
MY old flat mate had a RG50...that could haul for what it was.

**xwhatsit** · 5th June 2008, 12:15

That's awesome, guys! I suppose you didn't put in those fancy 100kph 50ccs because you're doing a test on mopeds, and a 100kph 50cc scooter is not going to be able to be registered as a moped?

Pretty damned cool. I want an Adly Silver Fox

**ZK-Awesome** · 5th June 2008, 21:54

Where's the Suzuki SJ50? Very common in NZ, at least in Nelson

**Del Fuego** · 6th June 2008, 16:48

Ok to briefly answer some of those queries.

We tried to aim it at reasonably common 50cc machines available now. So we had to get an assortment of current models. The clincher being that they are available in NZ as that is where the test was done. The other complicated bit is we had to get the NZ distributors to supply the bikes and some of them are a bit difficult to get bikes off etc.

The next big comparison test will probably be done in australia so we can get hold a few of the brands that aren't supported here. Unfortunately we are never going to be able to test all the current models available. This is for a couple of reasons A) it would be virtually impossible to test realistically 50 or more bikes and B) each market have different models and brands available. So in reality to test em all we would have to ship bikes from all over the world to one place and have a hundred guys to test ride, performance test etc etc... impossible.

We will get better and better with this stuff as we get more well known in the industry globally. Currently we are small fry (although we are now the largest english language scooter review site in the world)

Yes the name is a bit of a laugh... and to be honest more than a little tounge in cheek. In saying that there will be a 125 super battle and a maxi one.. so they will be a bit more super... ish.

We are using US Gallons rather than imperial for the simple fact that of our global traffic about 70% of it is from the states.

Chinese scoots and reliability... I know where you are coming from but both the lifan and the vmoto/Keeway (the keeway especially) seem to be pretty well bolted together. Don't forget that most of the Jap... and a lot of Euro scoots are assembled in china... like anything there are good and bad products everywhere. I look forward to seeing how they last but I have high hopes... I know someone who has done 40 odd thousand kms on his Urban and that is still going strong (keeway bike) so really is wait and see.

Thanks for all the feedback, keep it coming