Tasers safe.. as long as you are in the police

[Tank]

I'd quite like to take the 5-second Taser ride. Just out of curiosity.

Id love to taser someone - you're as good as any - My neighbour is quite high up in Auckland police. Ill ask him over the weekend.

[jrandom]

Id love to taser someone - you're as good as any - My neighbour is quite high up in Auckland police. Ill ask him over the weekend.

I'm sure you'd love to taser someone, but I'm not interested in being shot by anyone who hasn't undergone the relevant training and taken the ride themselves.

If your neighbour wants to pull the trigger himself, he'll be welcome.

[alanzs]

(I don't know the stats, but I don't think anyone has died directly as a result of a tazer shot)

Depends what you mean by direct. If you mean they were alive and well and then they got tazed and died then yes, there have been deaths directly related to getting tazed. Indirectly, well, we all die. Shit happens. That's why we have ACC.

[imdying]

The tazer is one last step removed from shooting.

Mouth off all you like. You are not gonna get fried.

Never fear, I just filled in a boring afternoon, I very much doubt that no matter how much some little punks deserve it, they won't get the tasering that they've earnt.

[Jerry74]

Give them to the prison service as well, have to deal with the same crims as the police.

[St_Gabriel]

ok, firstly, lets excuse the fact that using a Taser against a person, selling a taser, posessing a taser or anything else, is against the law (electricity regs, a device which can cause harm to people/property or livestock, Next time Im not so drunk will research it further is ppl are interested)
Im all for the police having anything at their disposal to help them with their jobs, but would prefer they were armed with a Glock (saves on prison costs).
As an aside, would really like to be tasered one day as I am one of the few people who dont seem to mind being "Megger'ed" at 1000 volts ( Yes I know Tasers work at much higher voltages) and I wonder at the efficacy of the Taser when the subject/victim/criminal is in a very low resistace situation. ( EG poring rain/absolutely saturated)

[Mr Merde]

..
(I don't know the stats, but I don't think anyone has died directly as a result of a tazer shot)

Think back a few months.

Think Canada,

Think non English speaking male

Think airport.

He wouldnt do as he was told , cos he couldnt speak English.

Police tasered him and he died.

[Trouser]

Incidently the police commissioner refuses to be tasered because it is dangerous.

[alanzs]

Incidently the police commissioner refuses to be tasered because it is dangerous.

His refusal to be tasered is about as relevant to the discussion of a tazers merits in law enforcement as hammers are to apples. Asking him if he thought the colours of the tazer would clash with the police uniforms would have been about as relevant as the question he was asked. He probably doesn't want to be shot buy a gun or hit by a club either. He said he was getting on in age and didn't want to take a risk. Fair enough. Maybe if crims think the same way, they'll try to avoid getting zapped by a tazer.

Deterrence isn't a bad thing. Like having a gun in the house for protection. Let the crims feel fear when they break into a home.

[NighthawkNZ:Me]

don't break the law you won't get tasered...????

[MSTRS:Me]

don't break the law you won't get tasered...????

Um...more properly, don't come to the attention of the police. There will be mistakes.
btw I'm not against arming the farce, and tazers have to be better than openly carried firearms

[SPman]

don't break the law you won't get tasered...????

Sorry - experience overseas shows this is decidedly not the case!
I'm all for the police having the appropriate means at their command to carry out their job, but, put a "non lethal" (they arent, many people have died as a result of taser use, most of them not guilty of any offence!) weapon in the hands of a frightened or worse, arrogant, cop, as a general use weapon, and we are going to see the same instances of ill considered, non thinking, arrogant abuse, by some officers, that have occured overseas. Also, due to societys insistance of placing severely mentally ill people in the general community, they will be getting zapped more than most.
Without strictly enforced and transparent guidelines to use, it will be the disaster it has been overseas!

......Oh....

Fuck....

He shot me...

Why didn't I shoot him?

Go figure....... Only in NZ.....

Yep - you're fucked everywhich way! - but at least there is some form of accountability.

Tasers, in the hands of properly trained and stable, thinking police, are a far better option than general arming of police. If police need guns, they are normally available. Better to keep it that way. Either, should always be a weapon of last resort. To too many police, they could become a weapon of first resort and it's that sort of mentality, the general public need to KNOW, won't be the case.

[jrandom]

"non lethal"

'Non-lethal' is a misnomer, because obviously any incapacitating weapon can potentially cause death in various ways. 'Less-lethal' is the accepted industry term.

It's also important to note that the whole point of the Taser is that it is not a 'pain compliance' weapon. The fact that it hurts is secondary to the fact that the electric pulses cause immobilising muscle contractions.

A target with a high pain tolerance will still be incapacitated by a Taser, which is an important point of difference to pepper spray or baton strikes.

[<Rhino>]

.... It'll be a lesson for the next asshole who thinks they can break into a poor defenseless person's house....... Bang, [U]Bang motherfucker, taste my .

.45 - Defenseless.......

There would be no warning shot. There will be a warning call though, to the police. The warning call will be along the lines of "I have just defended myself and the intruder is dead. I am safe as is my family. Please come quick, the blood is ruining my carpet and the dead person has shit their pants, warning, it stinks."

[Griffin]

Griffin, you are out for a jog. You've just passed the Tui Glen Dairy when the cops arrive (armed holdup callout). They think you are the robber. Yell out to stop. You have no idea it's you they are talking to. Bang! One between the shoulder blades.
Still want them armed?

As a matter of fact YES I do still want them armed. Chances of me being out for a jog are slim... however, should I be out and I see cops turn up and hear them yell out to stop... then stop I shall, as should everybody within earshot. It will soon become apparent who they are talking to and if they've got the wrong man it will get sorted in the subsequent discussion.

The thing is that bugger all people in NZ and in particular the criminal element have any respect for the Police. Talking a criminal out of violent behaviour may work once in a while but more often than not the cops get nothing but abuse hurled back. That would happen a lot less if the Cop had his firearm drawn (and yes there are the cases where firearms still dont work... that is when the trigger gets pulled). I have been out with the Police and witnessed many incidents where I have thought a firearm or even a Tazer would have been warranted. Not necessarily to be fired but as a deterrant.

Dont get me wrong - Im not JUST for arming the Police... Im also for making life mean LIFE, prison cells 6ft square and concrete, Prison meals bland and repetitive, bringing back hard labour and chain gangs, minimising criminals rights, justice for victims of crime and corporal punishment in schools.

NZ is a Country where the namby pamby, left wing, politically correct, tree hugging do gooders have all the say and the majority are left wondering WTF.

About time it changed