Keep it this way

**SpankMe** · 25th January 2005, 16:46

Our flag is our heritage

**SPORK** · 25th January 2005, 16:52

...The flag or the site? Are you saying we should only have NZ bikers?

**Blakamin** · 25th January 2005, 16:55

the one on that flag site looks shite!
If the wanted a fern, make it a fern... not a fuckin grey leaf!
and I agree, people fought under that flag...
including many relos of mine (i was born in Oz, but my whole family wasn't)

**John** · 25th January 2005, 17:23

I cant beleave that these 'people' of so called interlect want to change it if I see them I will happily kick there fooken ass or attack them with the ZZR (its on my side you know).

I mean what the hell, as said all the people who fought for the flag including my dad in WW2, and the nation and democracy - I mean what the hell. I cant beleave they want a referendem (sp) on it, no true 'kiwis' will resent the idea of a new flag.

In actuall fact its a bunch of half assed homo dickless/tit-less (pc) pieces of crap who want to be remebered for fucking up a country, well newsflash go eat freash fooken ass you pricks!!

(sorry its how I feel)

**sAsLEX** · 25th January 2005, 17:28

Originally Posted by John

eat freash fooken ass you pricks!!

(sorry its how I feel)

you seem to have spelt arse wrong, Hitcher will be after you soon....

**ZorsT** · 25th January 2005, 17:32

The only problem I have with it, is that it looks too much like the australian flag, maybe they should change theirs.....

**John** · 25th January 2005, 17:45

Originally Posted by sAsLEX

you seem to have spelt arse wrong, Hitcher will be after you soon....

apparently quite a good "eat".

**Hitcher** · 25th January 2005, 17:46

Fuck I hate it when you've just spent 10 minutes drafting something erudite and witty, inadvertently hit some key sequence to watch it all evaporate into cyberspace.

Herewith the short version:

The old flag is a load of toss. It screams "colonial outpost". It looks the same as the Aussie flag (oh yes it does) and every banana republic from Guyana to Graceland.

Unfortunately the alternatives (so far) look no better. The last thing we need is a flag designed by a committee (otherwise it will get printed in natural, politically correct earth tones on hand-woven GE-free organic hemp by unionised labour...).

The Canadians were brave enough to ditch theirs in favour of a real stunner that clearly identifies their country. Let's do something similar.

Let's get rid of that old shite sheet!

**Blakamin** · 25th January 2005, 17:50

Originally Posted by GoodAndSuchLike

The only problem I have with it, is that it looks too much like the australian flag, maybe they should change theirs.....

special just for you!

**Hitcher** · 25th January 2005, 17:50

Originally Posted by John

I cant beleave that these 'people' of so called interlect want to change it if I see them I will happily kick there fooken ass

You poor soft-cock cringer. Why can't you kick them in the arse as any REAL kiwi man or woman would?

Ass kicking and licking should be the sole preserve of the Anus americanus.

Brave defenders of the arse are we!!

**MSTRS:Me** · 25th January 2005, 17:54

Originally Posted by Hitcher

Fuck I hate it when you've just spent 10 minutes drafting something erudite and witty, inadvertently hit some key sequence to watch it all evaporate into cyberspace.

Herewith the short version:

The old flag is a load of toss. It screams "colonial outpost". It looks the same as the Aussie flag (oh yes it does) and every banana republic from Guyana to Graceland.

Unfortunately the alternatives (so far) look no better. The last thing we need is a flag designed by a committee (otherwise it will get printed in natural, politically correct earth tones on hand-woven GE-free organic hemp by unionised labour...).

The Canadians were brave enough to ditch theirs in favour of a real stunner that clearly identifies their country. Let's do something similar.

Let's get rid of that old shite sheet!

I agree. Change for change's sake is not enough tho. We need to secede from the 'old country' and become a Republic too. Bloody Republic of New Zealand (BRONZ) or something

**ZorsT** · 25th January 2005, 17:58

Originally Posted by Blakamin

special just for you!

I was fully expecting that.

What i was going to say, is that people from other countries get quite confused because they dont know the difference between the two. While I was in Canada, i met too many people who could not tell the difference. That needs to change

Im not TRYING to trash australia, it just seems to happen....

**James Deuce** · 25th January 2005, 18:00

Why does everyone think that:

A. Changing the flag will matter a bit.
B. That a Republican Democracy is the ONLY alternative to a Constitutional Monarchy/Westminster Parliamentarian system?

About as much thought has gone into both those points in NZ as went into pushing MMP as the ONLY suitable proportional voting system.

I'm genuinely interested.

Bear in mind when you think about these, that no one cares whether or not NZ exists or vanishes tomorrow. We mean nothing to 99% of the world, so we should make these decisions based on local benefit only.

**John** · 25th January 2005, 18:00

Originally Posted by Hitcher

You poor soft-cock cringer. Why can't you kick them in the arse as any REAL kiwi man or woman would?

Ass kicking and licking should be the sole preserve of the Anus americanus.

Brave defenders of the arse are we!!

call me whatever, but I really wouldnt ever use 'arse' in a sentence of any importance, I'd prefer to not sound like a pom.

but hey I'm normal :P