is not a trout
My suggestion would be to get a cordura jacket and trou to go over your suit. Warm, waterproof, versatile and relatively cheap. Save up and get the leathers later when you're doing more long-distance riding and when you'll have a better idea of what's around and what will suit you and your lifestyle.Originally Posted by Bonmaklad
There is no such thing as bad weather; only inappropriate clothing!
is not a trout
Just a clarification: is this leather jacket a bike jacket or a dress-style leather jacket?
There is a huge difference in the two. If it's a dress jacket it's unlikely to give you much protection at all as the leather will be too soft, the seams won't be reinforced and the design will be made to look good, not to protect you if you end up sliding along the road.
The armour is better than nothing, but you still need something to prevent skin abrasion.
No8 Wire Extraordinaire
Gee I'd have to totally disagree with that statement. Most accidents happen on short trips. Also you are more likely to have a bin when you are learning.
So on that premise it would be better to buy as good as you can afford and/or go the 2nd hand route until you can afford to upgrade. (excepting helmets of course).
Don't you look at my accountant.
He's the only one I've got.
L-Plate Rider
yeah no it's just a dress jacket really i guess for me I want two things.
protection if I come off but i still want to look good? I know it's a girly thing to say but I just love the whole leathers and bike look.
so the motorcross armour, do you think that is good for impacts? So what i need is protection to keep my skin?
oooo i'm a 34" waist?
L-Plate Rider
oh ok dave, so your saying that i should get leathers, my motorcross stuff is no good for impacts?
cos my theory was mx cross stuff for impacts and then drggin to keep my skin?
So it's best to sell up and just get full leathers?
No8 Wire Extraordinaire
Actually I'd say MX stuff is probably good for impacts. But if it isn't built into your gear then it will be a hassle & you won't bother with it.
Don't you look at my accountant.
He's the only one I've got.
Weekend cruiser
buy the best gear you can afford and upgrade when you have more cash - seems to be the repetative answer but this is really the best advise. also always keep on trying to improve your skills, even when you think you are all rossi like and unbeatable your still just a sack of meat and bones sitting atop a bucking lump of metal
my 2 cents - stay away from draggin jeans and buy a set of good leather pants and a courdura jacket with strong armour. cordura pants if you cant afford the leathers but remeber if you bin you'll proably be replacing your cordura gear where leathers will more than likely stand up for some more abuse. if you where wearing draggin jeans then you'll probably have some serious rash to let heal too. i think only scooter riders should wear draggin jeans and/or people who only do only inner city commuting at 50kmh or below. anything above inner city speeds and you'll feel the pain still in draggin jeans. saftey above fashion! put your jeans on when you have finished your ride. oh, cordura is lighter and not as restrictive as leather in your movements so think about that too if you are still unfamiliar and a little shaky on your new ride. it comes down to personal preference and comfort really but my preference is leather. enjoy your new bike
Come on, Toshi, come on!
L-Plate Rider
oh no no I will don't worry, i've got to drive along motorways to go to work and cos it's the opposite way, everyone will be doing 100 and there will be me trying to hop along at 70!!
so for now if I wore my mx stuff (minus the elbows - cos they are freaking annoyin) and buy those kevlar jeans with the knee armour in from Quasievil, where my boots and my gloves oh and a helmet. the only thing thats going to annoy me will be losing skin on my upper body cos i'm wearing a designer jacket and not hard leather?
or should I just try and sell that mx armour and just go and buy a leather 2 pc suit today?
is not a trout
Yeah I guess that didn't come out right.
What I meant is, he's commuting at the moment so the best gear for him with his current riding is probably cordura to go over his work clothes. IMO leathers are more suited when you're doing more touring-style riding - you put them on in the morning and keep them on all day. For a commuting it's a hassle to keep changing in and out of leather pants.
As for the jacket, I agree that leather jackets look good on a bike. But you will need something other than a dress jacket if you're looking for protection as well as good looks.
The instructions are simple...
DO NOT RIDE AT 70kph!!!! You will die (from being run over). If you can't cope with 100kph, then stay the fuck off any road so rated.
And 2nd - yes. It'll basically cost you less if you spend a little more on the right stuff first.
Do you realise how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them?
L-Plate Rider
oh i don't mind driving at 100 but as a learner driver i'm not allowed to.
Ok got my mum looking on trade me (banned at work) to see what leathers they got.
lets see what i come up with. still have to pass my theory though, i've been driving for 5 years now and i keep failing new zealand theory tests
is not a trout
This has been discussed a lot on here. The rule was designed to keep you out of 100kph zones. If you are going to ride in 100kph zones, then ride at 100. Do not ride at 70. Technically it is illegal, but safety is more important than legality.
L-Plate Rider
oh ok I agree to be honest, thing is the roads I have to go along are 80 and 100 there is no back roads that allow less, so it woudl means i can't commute to work safely.
The instructions are simple...
If you value you life, but won't exceed the bullshit 70 learner limit...then don't get on a bike.
Simple as that.
Even the pollies have realised that the 70 limit is dangerous and are readying themselves to drop it, along with some other changes to the L/R stages.
Do you realise how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them?
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Remember that every off/incident is different. Some have come off at 200kph and had very little in the way of injuries, others have come off at 60kph and broken bones. Depends on the environment, how you come off, and obstacles you like to hit in the process of slowing down.
Personally, I came off in the soaking wet, thrown onto the road, slid down the road (bike did too) for over 100m and I was doing 90kph. Was wearing a cordura jacket and draggin jeans. Draggins were untouched, jacket, one elbow was scuffed a bit through the outer layer. However, damage was so light because there was pretty much nothing slowing me down, or dragging on the gear (and why I came off in the first place).
Could have been a very different situation in the dry, with the road being rougher.
For first gear, cordura is normally a good compromise between protection and all weather riding. Over time, you will add gear to the collection as you spot stuff you want
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