Fucking darkies

[Lias]

Nope, I don't believe it explains them either. I reckon what it does explain is people's obsession with labelling everything, putting things into boxes and trying to make out life is black and white when it's all pretty grey where I'm sitting.

Thats a whole diffrent argument right their.. Some people see in shades of grey and others see in black and white.. My guess is its literally different wiring in the brain.

[Ocean1]

Define prejudice.

Define racism.

Anyone?

[Oscar]

My that comes close to breaking godwins law!

I think that the leap between acknowleding that for better or worse certain ethnicities are more likely to commit crime, and wanting to exterminate an entire ethnicity is rather a large one.

Bullshit.
Certain social groups commit crime, sure - but is ethnicity the cause?

Where homogeneous communities exist, they separate along economic lines and the poor/less educated get the blame.
Class or caste system replaces skin colour - study pre-industrial Japan, India or pre-immigrant England.

[yod]

for better or worse certain ethnicities are more likely to commit crime, and wanting to exterminate an entire ethnicity is rather a large one.

hmmm....i wonder if its got anything to do with the fact that they've been consistently fucked over by the (generally) white majority for hundreds of years.....

[outlawtorn]

Define prejudice.

Define racism.

Anyone?

Prejudice:
1. an unfavorable opinion or feeling formed beforehand or without knowledge, thought, or reason.
2. any preconceived opinion or feeling, either favorable or unfavorable.
3. unreasonable feelings, opinions, or attitudes, esp. of a hostile nature, regarding a racial, religious, or national group.

Racism:
1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.
2. a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.
3. hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.

[Lias]

You were the one rolling out the simplistic stereotypes, sunshine.

The only stereotype I remember rolling out was about unwashed hippies.. and that was at least half tounge in cheek.

[Ms Piggy]

Thats a whole diffrent argument right their.. Some people see in shades of grey and others see in black and white.. My guess is its literally different wiring in the brain.

I don't think it's different brain wiring. I think it's a case of if people are willing to do their homework and find out why the stats you mentioned earlier are so, rather than believe the stereotypes and labels regarding any group in society.

In my view racism and/or prejudice generally comes from misinformation and believing 1 size fits all - such as the rhetoric around in the 80's that 'all men are rapists' and the rhetoric that states 'all feminists are men haters' etc, etc, etc.

[Lias]

Bullshit.
Certain social groups commit crime, sure - but is ethnicity the cause?

Where homogeneous communities exist, they separate along economic lines and the poor/less educated get the blame.
Class or caste system replaces skin colour - study pre-industrial Japan, India or pre-immigrant England.

Cause and correlation are unrelated.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correla...mply_causation

A correlation between ethnicity and crimerates can exist without ethnicity being the cause of the correlation. I hope that makes sense.

[Hitcher]

Some people see in shades of grey and others see in black and white.. My guess is its literally different wiring in the brain.

It's called intelligence.

[98tls]

hmmm....i wonder if its got anything to do with the fact that they've been consistently fucked over by the (generally) white majority for hundreds of years.....

Probably if thats the way you view it but as there so fucked off condones there actions then havent the (generally) white...no idea of the figures..got a right to be fucked off about being fucked over as well when there generation had nothing to do with it.

[Lias]

I don't think it's different brain wiring. I think it's a case of if people are willing to do their homework and find out why the stats you mentioned earlier are so, rather than believe the stereotypes and labels regarding any group in society.

In my view racism and/or prejudice generally comes from misinformation and believing 1 size fits all - such as the rhetoric around in the 80's that 'all men are rapists' and the rhetoric that states 'all feminists are men haters' etc, etc, etc.

The black and white vs grey thing doesnt just apply to race, politics, prejudice or anything else. Some people just see the world in different ways. Some see the big picture, others dont, some see black and white, some see a few shades of grey, others see a million shades of grey. Just like some people are visual learners, others kinesthetic learners, etc etc.

[Oscar]

Cause and correlation are unrelated.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correla...mply_causation

A correlation between ethnicity and crimerates can exist without ethnicity being the cause of the correlation. I hope that makes sense.

Very good.
The problem is I didn't say that that the particular group caused it, I said that they got the blame for it.

[98tls]

It's called intelligence.

Sweet,ive no idea who to vote for but if you want to continue to pay for peoples actions caused by there parents actions then by all means kick off the "intelligence" party.You will get my vote but only if you pay my share.

[Ms Piggy]

The black and white vs grey thing doesnt just apply to race, politics, prejudice or anything else. Some people just see the world in different ways. Some see the big picture, others dont, some see black and white, some see a few shades of grey, others see a million shades of grey. Just like some people are visual learners, others kinesthetic learners, etc etc.

Okay I see what you're saying. I misunderstood your earlier post.

Basically my argument will always be that racism and prejudice have contributed greatly to the major world wide fuck ups.

Therefore, why contribute to that and try justify it by quoting stats that say a stereotype of a certain ethnicity is true so that makes racist comments justifiable...yeah, I think that made sense.

This little lefty is all tuckered out now and needs to sleep. Night, night.

[Hitcher]

Sweet,ive no idea who to vote for but if you want to continue to pay for peoples actions caused by there parents actions then by all means kick off the "intelligence" party.You will get my vote but only if you pay my share.

That one went right over my head.