Wednesday Evening Cruises 2008-09

[MIZXR]

[QUOTE=Casualty;1838902]Get a fucking clue.
Anyone who has ridden with either Helen or Tim (the 2 riders he was trying to pass) for half a minute will tell you that there is no way in hell that either of them were trying to "be a hero."
You need to really consider how what you write can be interpreted, and how incredibly insulting and inappropriate it is to suggest that Helen or Tim caused that crash.
You weren't there, you didn't see the crash, you have no reason at all to make the above comments.
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Yeah sorry didn't mean to imply that either of them were trying to be a hero or that their action caused the crash just that they MAY-my word have accelated down the straight when the guy who crashed was expecting them to let him passed. -from him. It was still his fault, he knows that too.

It was dam good she was there at the time and a shame it happened in front of her. I also want to here from her view as well but havn't had the chance.

And yeah I do have a right to comment I've heard his side have you? I'm guessing not as you wern't there either. An before you bitch there is two sides to every story.

I've never had any prob with Helens riding when i've been passing her she stays where you expect here throught the corner and continues riding the same as if you wern't behind so is easy to predict what she will do.

If simple actions can be taken and help reduce this sort of thing the better for all of us on the rides. It is the main reason I don't ride with the slow group but happens with the faster guys as well.

It is something I've seen alot during the rides and with the mix up of riding speeds and abilities and with the larger numbers it is something that is starting to need attention. - Directed at everyone -You should know what is behind you at all times and its easy to let people pass. Saves some people from doing stupid shite.

[MIZXR]

You are talking about me
No that is not what happened
Geordie wants someone to blame??he should try himself
I cannot believe that I am being blamed for having a part in this accident
You are so wrong
Im done

No not at all and i'm sorry you are taking it that way, not at all the way it was meant. His was the passing move and he stuffed it up and it's good that you wern't hurt as well. He knows he fucked up he thought the pass would be easier and got too carried away trying to pull it off, no excuses and his fault and not yours and my bad way of saying what could of happened. Not saying that you guned it down the straight or anything like that at all. I know how he rides and you ride and it's unlikely you did anything wrong at all.
Just a bad judgement call on his part and a warning to others

[Transalper]

Tell ya something that annoys me a bit about bikes in general....
A lot of people don't indicate their intention to pass other bikes with blinkers before they just up and go.

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I also want to here from her view as well but havn't had the chance.

And yeah I do have a right to comment I've heard his side have you? I'm guessing not as you wern't there either. An before you bitch there is two sides to every story.

Can't ya read?? http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...&postcount=717 As your 'mate' passed me a car came around the corner ahead. Instead of slotting in infront of me and waiting until it was safe to pass HOT he decided to give it the gas and take the car on. He lost and in doing so put two riders and a motorist at risk. Instead of trying to defend his actions get him to face up to his idiot riding before he succeeds in killing himself or somebody else

[fireliv]

[Yeah sorry didn't mean to imply that either of them were trying to be a hero or that their action caused the crash just that they MAY-my word have accelated down the straight when the guy who crashed was expecting them to let him passed. -from him. .

Geordie is a loose fucking cannon, with him it was only a matter of time. Cant fucken corner. I always used to move out of his way, manly cos I dont want him near me, but obviously his ego is too big for his bike cos hes a shit rider. Thought he might learn something from this accident but obviously not to even think that it was there fault.

He and anyone else that tries to blame Hels and Tim can get fucked.

[Dave-]

hey guys, cool it eh?

MIZXR is a top bloke and as he stated wasn't there, he was simply suggesting another scenario which does happen, NOT in this occasion he's wrong about that and that's fine, it's not even his opinion on what happened.

he's then explained, apologised and commended helen, on both her riding and for her help at the scene.

I don't want to see my family torn apart SO STOP IT....YOU'RE MAKING ME SAD.

LEAVE ANDY ALONE!

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[gammaguy]

Geordie is a loose fucking cannon, with him it was only a matter of time. Cant fucken corner. I always used to move out of his way, manly cos I dont want him near me, but obviously his ego is too big for his bike cos hes a shit rider. Thought he might learn something from this accident but obviously not to even think that it was there fault.

He and anyone else that tries to blame Hels and Tim can get fucked.

people need to own their actions,helens nana govt has gone,lets get real.

he stuffed up,could have killed people,and needs to own and react to that.

[JMemonic]

yea bud for sure happy to watch people on the background, last wednesday we took of earlier as I was watching Dave he was doing great, pointers thats all I am far from consider myself an experience rider. Still lots to learn and to put into practise!!

Mate pointers is all anyone needs, that's the idea.

[JMemonic]

Get a fucking clue.
Anyone who has ridden with either Helen or Tim (the 2 riders he was trying to pass) for half a minute will tell you that there is no way in hell that either of them were trying to "be a hero."
You need to really consider how what you write can be interpreted, and how incredibly insulting and inappropriate it is to suggest that Helen or Tim caused that crash.
You weren't there, you didn't see the crash, you have no reason at all to make the above comments.

Yeah sorry didn't mean to imply that either of them were trying to be a hero or that their action caused the crash just that they MAY-my word have accelated down the straight when the guy who crashed was expecting them to let him passed. -from him. It was still his fault, he knows that too.

It was dam good she was there at the time and a shame it happened in front of her. I also want to here from her view as well but havn't had the chance.

And yeah I do have a right to comment I've heard his side have you? I'm guessing not as you wern't there either. An before you bitch there is two sides to every story.

I've never had any prob with Helens riding when i've been passing her she stays where you expect here throught the corner and continues riding the same as if you wern't behind so is easy to predict what she will do.

If simple actions can be taken and help reduce this sort of thing the better for all of us on the rides. It is the main reason I don't ride with the slow group but happens with the faster guys as well.

It is something I've seen alot during the rides and with the mix up of riding speeds and abilities and with the larger numbers it is something that is starting to need attention. - Directed at everyone -You should know what is behind you at all times and its easy to let people pass. Saves some people from doing stupid shite.

It happened with this post, I am extremely disappointed, (I am being nice here), I am not trying to appropriate blame that's not my role, I was not there when the accident happened but I did see the result, if my pacing out is correct there was approximately 88 meters of skid mark left by the bike involved not a good look, I actually restrained myself from taking photos, which I might add was difficult after my initial reaction of jumping through the bushes to render assistance as I thought perhaps HOT was dealing with a major casualty. That section on road is not a place to pass unless you have plenty of room, that is very easy to judge.

I hope Geordie is doing well and on reflection will take this as a sign that any deity he might believe in was looking after him on this occasion, seriously he was inches from either spending time in Burwood or at the undertakers.

If I were the rider in front I certainly would have seen the rider in the rear view mirror I doubt however in this location I would have been in a position to either move safely further to the left of the road to allow the rider to pass with out ruining my line thus placing myself in additional danger or anticipated that the rider was in any way attempting to pass me in such a location.

At the end of the day, (as my partner has pointed out many time since this) I nor any other rider can be held responsible for another's whilst on the road, unfortunately this is potentially not the way the law might see it.

I will think long and hard before attending next weeks ride, I actually enjoy these rides particularly in the manner which it was originally intended a cruisey ride, with the potential to help out newer riders and have a social night out, not the race it has become to some folks.

The saddest thing is this was predicted, and I have on numerous occasions heard, when promoting the night to guys I know, that there is no way they will even consider going on this ride due to the potentially dangerous nature they have heard these rides have. its very disheartening.

[dangerous]

accelated down the straight when the guy who crashed was expecting them to let him passed. -from him.

I also want to here from her view as well but havn't had the chance.

And yeah I do have a right to comment I've heard his side have you? I'm guessing not as you wern't there either. An before you bitch there is two sides to every story.

na mate, best ya either pull ya head in or wake up n smell the coffee... I saw it happen, the gsxr1100 was fucked up from the start, 88m skid alone tells you his speed.

You dont need to hear shit from HOT, you already believe ya mate, Helen needs not explain her self to you full stop.

There is only 1 side to the story... the truth, anything else is gutless bull shit from a coward.

Tell ya something that annoys me a bit about bikes in general....
A lot of people don't indicate their intention to pass other bikes with blinkers before they just up and go.

Fuck yes... pure lazyness

You are talking about me
No that is not what happened
Geordie wants someone to blame??he should try himself
I cannot believe that I am being blamed for having a part in this accident
You are so wrong
Im done

Theres no way in hell... you had anything to do with it... Andys initial comment was OUT OF LINE (but since been edited)

[JMemonic]

people need to own their actions,helens nana govt has gone,lets get real.

he stuffed up,could have killed people,and needs to own and react to that.

I hope you mean the former Labour govt here and that's what I will take it you mean, just think though no laws have changed and until such time as they do it status quo, the current laws still stand.

I understand your sentiment you believe people need to be responsible for their actions, correct but some folks don't seen to see it that way sadly.

[gammaguy]

the helen i was referring to was our (EX)prime minister.

sorry,didnt see the potential for a mix up there,thanks for pointing it out.

[JMemonic]

the helen i was referring to was our (EX)prime minister.

sorry,didnt see the potential for a mix up there,thanks for pointing it out.

No worries, politics is a messy business.

I will always maintain it does not matter who is in power, they are all idiots.

[alley cat]

ARE YOU GUYS MENTAL?! Don't get me wrong, I'm all for curtesy and not crashing etc. but why would you invite wolves into a pack of sheep?

Lesson number one - Know your enemy!

Im with you on that one. Fuck the pooolice.

Stop analysing peoples actions kids. This isnt a witch hunt. Unfortunatly people make fuck ups.
Its just a reminder to ride defensivley, assume every other bikers a wanker.
Highly likely they probably are.

[karla]

No worries, politics is a messy business.

I will always maintain it does not matter who is in power, they are all idiots.

That's why it's called an erection - most are a bunch of pricks