Wednesday Evening Cruises 2008-09

[laRIKin]

Yea, you know it!! you just wait...

tehehehe

Yes mistress.

[JMemonic]

Making???!!!

I think you will find that the ones that go to Duvoucelles do so from their own choice, do they really pick you as being ones to follow orders?

I don't care how safe you guys think it makes it, follow the leader is GAY! If people wanna boogie and can pass safely I don't see the problem. It's a ride not a funeral procession. If new riders are led to believe that this is normal they will be bored off riding pretty fast.

Food for thought: if the leader doesn't like getting passed then get a faster leader. It's hardly rocket science...

It really eats me how some self appointed 'heros' wanna play the big man and feel they can be in charge of other people, but not as much as the lemmings that let themselves be bossed around. You shouldn't need rules only a little common sense and a little consideration. Whats next? Reg and WOF checks before each ride to make sure the bikes are safe? - Give people some credit.

If being passed offends any of you - FFS get over it! It's gonna happen from time to time be it on bikes or in cars, it's not done to deliberatly insult you and if you think that way you should see a shrink!

That's my 2 cents worth, like it or not!

Steve you have said all this before, the situation that caused a meeting and these rules to be placed rather than allowing common sense has remaid unchanged.


There is no such thing as common sense.

These rides are semi organised hence the leader and tec roles, no one is " some self appointed 'heros' ", you don't like the rules then as you have done in the past don't come, and stop your bitching about it or step up and organise a ride, offer some tuition and help to the newer rides etc, oh its to fucking hard isnt it.

[dangerous]

Steve you have said all this before, the situation that caused a meeting and these rules to be placed rather than allowing common sense has remaid unchanged.


There is no such thing as common sense

These rides are semi organised hence the leader and tec roles, no one is " some self appointed 'heros' ", you don't like the rules then as you have done in the past don't come, and stop your bitching about it or step up and organise a ride, offer some tuition and help to the newer rides etc, oh its to fucking hard isnt it.

na, come on... Stevo has some good points, but thats only and only cos the rides advertised as a all in relaxed ride.
The problem is everyone has a different opion of what relaxed is... so, IMHO to avoid any confusion it should be promoted as a newbes ride, after all thay are who the leaders are aiming the ride at, and it seems anyone with more knolage/abilty and or horse power is frowned upon.

Dave did get a bit carried away with his actions (reguarding the crazy girls and their followers Lemans) specially when he was seen along with two others nailing it, which is all fine but when ya have riders like HOT and LilM whom have the ability to ride quicker, you cant expect them to over heat behind a zxr250.

[3umph]

Maybe you need a 2 group system for riding...

you obviously have new and experienced riders in the group... maybe newer people wanting experience have the leader and tail end Charlie to keep checks on them and for guidance and the more experienced lead off and ride in a group at a pace that is good for them... destination the same even if time frame is different for the groups... as the less experienced/conferdant ones move up once they feel they can... lead group could run a leader and tail end charlie as well...

just a suggestion... I know that it would piss me off sitting behind some one putting around the hills

any comments on this idea???

I haven't been on one of these rides yet... but with all the bitching I don't know if I want to...

And no i'm not a learner rider

[JMemonic]

we have been down that route, but some didnt like it.

[gammaguy]

my suggestion?

go on a ride with the main bunch,some are fast,some are slow,theres a wide range of ability there.

if they piss you off for whatever reason,and you cant deal with it,next week ride with the "fast crew"on their weekly trip to duvauchelle.

if they are too fast/loose/whatever,then stick to riding with yer mates.

having said all that,im sure you would be welcome to come along on a ride,the more the merrier i reckon.

[helenoftroy]

but when ya have riders like HOT and LilM whom have the ability to ride quicker, you cant expect them to over heat behind a zxr250.

Nah D,the guidelines are clear for this group,leader stays in front.Its personal choice which group we ride with....this I deserve
Huge respect for what the guys have done to improve things

any comments on this idea???

I haven't been on one of these rides yet... but with all the bitching I don't know if I want to...

Like your idea just dont know how easy it would be to put into practise....
Go on,you know you really want to come ride....

[Dave-]

Dave did get a bit carried away with his actions (reguarding the crazy girls and their followers Lemans) specially when he was seen along with two others nailing it, which is all fine but when ya have riders like HOT and LilM whom have the ability to ride quicker, you cant expect them to over heat behind a zxr250.

sounds like you've been told fishing stories D.

any comments on this idea???

I haven't been on one of these rides yet... but with all the bitching I don't know if I want to...

And no i'm not a learner rider

Hi 3umph (I just got your name, fuckin' classic dude) that's how we use to organise the ride, but the Duvachelle group said they preferred to do Duvachelle each week anyway, they didn't fancy the ride over evans (too much traffic through sumner) tunnel was the same, the road to diamond harbour at the time was under construction, greta and Ashley gorge were too long and straight so they said they'd just do Duvachelle.

within the "normal" group it's generally expected that the faster riders go to the front, but even the faster riders in this group really aren't that much faster.

[SpeedyGirl]

Hey does anyone know what the deal is with the sheltered bike park on Hereford St, between Colombo and Oxford?
I see bikes using it all the time when I'm in town, but I don't know whether to use it as it has "private" signs all over it. If it's open it'd definitely be easier than coping with the piss poor parking by others in the open spots around the same area.

Should have the last 226 kms done by next Wednesday, but Uni's kicking in so still room for change.

great parking for those that work there, but after getting my last bike scratched and moved without permission i no longer park there, even tho i can

hey.. I heard there were some bad people on the ride just gone, and they have been hit with p/m's telling them off, thats terable and whats worse they were a senior riders... shame on you girls and boys

You troll!!!!

Nah D,the guidelines are clear for this group,leader stays in front.Its personal choice which group we ride with....this I deserve
Huge respect for what the guys have done to improve things

Like your idea just dont know how easy it would be to put into practise....
Go on,you know you really want to come ride....

Naughty Naughty Helen !!!

[200BUSA]

I havent been able to come on a ride for awhile, but hope to soon.
Suggestion- let the fast crew do there thing. For the slower -newer riders, find out who they are - whom ever is organising the ride when you are at BK walk around and introduce yourself- find out there skill level and offer a mentor for the ride.Some newer riders dont know anyone and dont know who to ask. Make up a list of riders and get ph numbers,incase you want to go for rides at other times during the week. Hope you all ride safe and enjoy your rides. Hope to tag along soon.

[laRIKin]

What a lot of crap this thread has turned in to.

All that happened was a few, me included jumped the gun at one of the stops to re-group.

THAT"S ALL.

[3umph]

Like your idea just dont know how easy it would be to put into practise....
Go on,you know you really want to come ride....

Yeah last week I had to wait for my daughter to get home and to late... maybe this week...

[3umph]

Hi 3umph (I just got your name, fuckin' classic dude) that's how we use to organise the ride, but the Duvachelle group said they preferred to do Duvachelle each week anyway, they didn't fancy the ride over evans (too much traffic through sumner) tunnel was the same, the road to diamond harbour at the time was under construction, greta and Ashley gorge were too long and straight so they said they'd just do Duvachelle.

within the "normal" group it's generally expected that the faster riders go to the front, but even the faster riders in this group really aren't that much faster.

Yeah when I saw the plate (and i would like to buy from who has it) I liked it to...

Going to one destination week in week out... how fu#*&n boring even if it is balls out...

[El Stevo]

There is no such thing as common sense.

offer some tuition and help to the newer rides etc, oh its to fucking hard isnt it.

1) Thanks for showing how you feel about the people you ride with - this goes some way to explain why you treat them like children.

2) You don't listen do you? I will not give advice to strangers, I am not a riding instructor nor do I have any intension of pretending to be one. I enjoy riding, that is why I do it.

These Wed rides used to be relaxed and enjoyable, a couple of one off acco's happen and a few take it apon them selves to take knee jerk reactions and impose a whole lot of rules on others.

A few (i.e. myself and a few others) can't be arsed with them and break off on our own ride and now it is implied that we are 'racing' and 'dangerous' and only fast people should come with us.

Well lets clear something up. The Duovocells ride is very much still a product of the wed ride, it was formed by people that don't want to put up with the bullshit that has tainted the 'main' ride. Anyone can join us, it is not for the fast and stupid as you seem to believe, it is mearly an alternative for like minded people irrelevant of what you ride or how you ride it.

And for the record - I am long passed caring what you or any others think of me, I don't plan on changing for anyone. I am who I am, love me, hate me or somewhere in between, I don't really care either way.

[Dave-]

Yeah when I saw the plate (and i would like to buy from who has it) I liked it to...

Going to one destination week in week out... how fu#*&n boring even if it is balls out...

eh, different strokes for different folks?

it was pretty conclusive at the time that they really really like that bit of tar!