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[MSTRS:Me]

I've come in contact with some gungho type cops & they do no-one any good but it seems to me that the definition of a 'good cop' is one that can tailor their approach to any situation in such a way as to do their job without making the situation worse. Honda & such perhaps need to look at their own behaviour for answers

[marty]

spud, you must be gutted that you got bad rep from honda. i mean, his opinion is so highly regarded.....

i had to have a lie down when he gave ME bad rep

[Lou Girardin]

Public approval of the Police surveys have been falling for a while now. Currently about 70% approval, it used to be 95% plus.
Strangely enough the number of people expressing no confidence in the Police is almost the same as the number ticketed each year ie approx 1.2 million.
We may not be able to do without cops, but they can't function properly without our support either, as they're finding out

[scumdog]

Public approval of the Police surveys have been falling for a while now. Currently about 70% approval, it used to be 95% plus.
Strangely enough the number of people expressing no confidence in the Police is almost the same as the number ticketed each year ie approx 1.2 million.
We may not be able to do without cops, but they can't function properly without our support either, as they're finding out

Where do these figure come from?

And YOU can't function without us either!

[Jantar]

I tried joining the police force when I moved to NZ. I'd love to be a police officer. However, certain things prevented me from going any further than the initial presentation (no, not a criminal record dumbass )

Now, where's that cot? hehehe

...certain things like - maybe your parents were already married when you were born?


(My apologies to the cops on this forum who do seem to be the decent ones.)

[scumdog]

...certain things like - maybe your parents were already married when you were born?


(My apologies to the cops on this forum who do seem to be the decent ones.)

Hmmm, being a bit presumtious here but apology accepted

[inlinefour]

And Honda, with people like you its funny that they cant change their attitudes because I gaurentee (sp?) that you will exploit the change for your own benefit if they do.

Police have to take a hard line to keep the socially deranged people in line. Funny how peoples attitude change when they cant have their own way

Its not about getting anyones way at all. I'm not sure what you or perhaps some others think from this thread, but I'll spell it out. Mentioned was an article found on www.xtramsn.co.nz about the lady cop that was assaulted. That was not the point as I think it sucked that she had that happen. The point I was trying to make was regarding the following part of the article:


The Police Association's Canterbury director Craig Prior says the street was full of people, but nobody went to Constable Cox's aid.

He is concerned the public perception of police officers has deteriorated over the past few years.

Now yes it was sad that no one did come to her aid, but from past experiences, perhaps not that surprising. Yes Craig is correct that the publics image of Police officers has deteriorated. However we see absolutely no effort made to change the internal problems and the external shite continues. Which is then in turn picked on by the media, and yes I know they do like to play Chinese wispers and screw the story so it resembles little thruth. But from the last six months or so the Police have been doing all sorts of stupid things, much of which I'm sure could not have happened. The lady that had the taxi called for her happened because she was known to the mental health service. The rural guy got smashed over without the chance of neighbours helping, at the Polices' hands and yet they appear to carry on, only apologising once it has been dragged through the media and all are to know. This shows a lack of responsibility, not being able to stand up and say "oh bugger we stuffed up". I'd also suspect that every time a Police officer needed to be investigated and a external investigation was done, less covering up and more charges against Police would result. And then there is Mr Spudchucker and you, totally oblivious to what is being said. Maybe its just because you don't like what is said, but that does not make it wrong. Yea I know I was going to stay out of it as I said before, but spud's comments just go to show that there is at least one out there with an attitude. All I can hope for is that the new Police officers learn form their elders mistakes, dont accept them and make those responsible, just that

[scumdog]

Just remember people, mistakes have been made by Police from time immemorial, not just in the last decade or 3-4 years, now the media seem on an agenda to expose as much of the mistakes as they can.

EVERYBODY screws up from time to time but a whole lot of you out there have a better chance of having the mistakes 'buried' and with a bit of luck nobody (let alone the media) will ever find out about them.

PS. Without bitches about bad cops, doing runners, getting tickets and being 'stopped without reason' this site would be a whole lot smaller eh?

[inlinefour]

Just remember people, mistakes have been made by Police from time immemorial, not just in the last decade or 3-4 years, now the media seem on an agenda to expose as much of the mistakes as they can.

EVERYBODY screws up from time to time but a whole lot of you out there have a better chance of having the mistakes 'buried' and with a bit of luck nobody (let alone the media) will ever find out about them.

PS. Without bitches about bad cops, doing runners, getting tickets and being 'stopped without reason' this site would be a whole lot smaller eh?

Funny thing is though, for all the whining and flack I've copped. I've never had a ticket or found myself outside the law (maybe passing cars?). How many others can say that, how many Police can say that and can Spud say that?

Anyway can we turn this thread into a beer talk or what?

[Sniper]

Anyway can we turn this thread into a beer talk or what?

Getting a bit hot under the collar Honda? :sly:

[Lou Girardin]

Just remember people, mistakes have been made by Police from time immemorial, not just in the last decade or 3-4 years, now the media seem on an agenda to expose as much of the mistakes as they can.

EVERYBODY screws up from time to time but a whole lot of you out there have a better chance of having the mistakes 'buried' and with a bit of luck nobody (let alone the media) will ever find out about them.

PS. Without bitches about bad cops, doing runners, getting tickets and being 'stopped without reason' this site would be a whole lot smaller eh?

Most of the media are reactive. They detect public concern about an issue and then worry it to death. If they didn't do their job, Arthur Alan Thomas would still be rotting in jail, Nixon may have won another term, etc.
Remember Scumdog, tolerance works both ways. There's a few thousand of you watching us, and a few million of us watching you.

[Blakamin]

Funny thing is though, for all the whining and flack I've copped. I've never had a ticket or found myself outside the law (maybe passing cars?). How many others can say that, how many Police can say that and can Spud say that?

Had 1 camera fine for doing 67 in a 60 zone that later got turned over when I proved I wasnt even in the state at the time... that was 16 years ago...
as for outside the law...

[inlinefour]

Getting a bit hot under the collar Honda? :sly:

According to the thermoter in my comp room its 27.4 degrees

[inlinefour]

Most of the media are reactive. They detect public concern about an issue and then worry it to death. If they didn't do their job, Arthur Alan Thomas would still be rotting in jail, Nixon may have won another term, etc.
Remember Scumdog, tolerance works both ways. There's a few thousand of you watching us, and a few million of us watching you.

Thats the sort of thing I'm trying to get at...

[scumdog]

Most of the media are reactive. They detect public concern about an issue and then worry it to death. If they didn't do their job, Arthur Alan Thomas would still be rotting in jail, Nixon may have won another term, etc.
Remember Scumdog, tolerance works both ways. There's a few thousand of you watching us, and a few million of us watching you.

Are the media CREATIVE before becoming REACTIVE these days, I've not always been in htis job but always kept my 'eye in' and until less than a decade ago (nore like 5-6 years) they did not seem to be quite so ferverently 'reactive' as you would say.

As you said, millions vs thousands, it's no wonder we get a little defensive at times eh?

How often does the media splash across the cover of tomorrows fish'n'chip wrapper statements like "Motorcycle Salesman Lies to Six Customers in Less than a Month, Fraudulently Makes large Profit for Firm" or " Parts Salesman Sells Wrong Brake Part, Could have Caused Fatal Smash"? I know it seems trite but you can see where I'm coming from eh?

Still, MY pay goes in every fortnight and they ain't laying off cops due to a drop in crime yet!!