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**spudchucka** · 25th January 2005, 20:23

Originally Posted by DrDee

Oh and the prick kept the pipe as well!!

Well you did plead guilty to possessing an impliment used to consume illegal drugs; don't you think it would be slighty innapropriate to then give the same item back to you so that you could commit the same offence again?

**inlinefour** · 26th January 2005, 04:06

Originally Posted by spudchucka

Well you did plead guilty to possessing an impliment used to consume illegal drugs; don't you think it would be slighty innapropriate to then give the same item back to you so that you could commit the same offence again?

Maybe after all that this wee chappy just does not get it. Oh and I doubt if the officer actually kept it.

**Clockwork** · 26th January 2005, 06:49

Originally Posted by spudchucka

Sorry but that just doesn't wash with me. While I'm prepared to cut a little slack around stop signs, (as explained in my earlier post) I can not see that anyone can moan if they receive a ticket for failing to stop at a stop sign. Everyone knows what "stop" means, we all had to study the road code to get our licence so I'm afraid we have no cause to moan if we don't stick to the rules and subsequently get pingged.

Regardless of what anyone thinks, stop signs are there for a reason. Its not hard to stop, it will probably add about another 1.5 seconds to your journey.

See.... its this "by the book..... I can't/wont think for myself" approach that pisses people off.

Still, I'm sure you must be right..... you're the Policeman and so I'll never do it again.

**marty** · 26th January 2005, 11:00

Originally Posted by DrDee

The bitchy thing is bacause I was only visiting Auckland and had to get back for work, I had to transfer the court case to New Plymouth, the only way to transfer a case is to pleed guilty. My lawyer said if I had stayed in Auckland it would have been thrown out of court because the pipe had never been used. Oh and the prick kept the pipe as well!!

actually, the MODA states that any paraphenalia etc will be forfieted upon conviction. and you were held in custody overnight for simple possession of a pipe? i guess though if you give your fingerprints/name etc, and have no previous convictions, that you can expect to be held in custody, especially in auckland - they don't have anythign else to do.

you didn't say if it was for class a or b

**Rainbow Wizard** · 26th January 2005, 11:15

I would very much like to know whether or not the Police get to keep all the traffic fines they dish out. Where does all that money go? They should be spending it on compulsory driver education, because it's the BAD drivers that are the problem, and sadly in many cases speed is the achilles heal on an already incompetant (to some degree) driver. Speed is the easiest thing to police and gain revenue from and is also universally recognised as the major exacerbating factor to injuries resulting from vehicle accidents. So yes, speed does increase risk but I assert that the main problem on our roads is not speed, but driver incompetance.

I would much rather attend regular compulsory driver education courses than be busted for driving faster than the legal limit because the latter is not inherently unsafe. Some of us are more adept than others but get lumbered with a regime tailored to a more universally lower level of driver skill and attentiveness. I would much rather see those standards lifted across the board; and busting the fast ones amongst us does very little if nothing towards achieveing such an improvement.

More tickets does not mean fewer accidents per se. It may well lower the average open highway speed and that would result in less serious injury, but there are probably as many if not more slow dickheads that cause accidents than there are speedsters. Yes the speedsters will have a much greater impact and medical effect if they are involved in an accident, but those people are not inherently unsafe drivers.

And if the criminal fines regime is not fully funding the police, justice, prison and parole system it bloody well should be. And if the bastards can't pay then put them to work for the public good. Enough already!

**marty** · 26th January 2005, 11:21

like the petrol tax funds roads you mean. the only enforcment agency that keeps a portion of their fines are the local body parking tickets etc. fines issued by the police/courts, are deposited into the consolidated fund. the police are issued with a budget each year, they have to deliver all enforcment and investigation out of that budget. i'm pretty sure that last year the total nz police budget is less that the health budget for the Waikato DHB.

how do you think helen and her mates have a $50 billion surplus? decimating the defence force helps i guess....

**scumdog** · 26th January 2005, 15:47

Originally Posted by spudchucka

Oh, so you've met all the good ones then.

What is it with new people on kiwi biker having all the issues with the police? Is someone advertising this as a site for whinging about the cops?

I've noticed it too SC, those with the least postings/newest joined are the ones most likely to do a bit of

at the

.

More senior they get the less they do. (well MOST of them anyway).

**inlinefour** · 26th January 2005, 16:01

Originally Posted by scumdog

I've noticed it too SC, those with the least postings/newest joined are the ones most likely to do a bit of

at the

.

More senior they get the less they do. (well MOST of them anyway).

But generally they put their foot in their mouth first

**scumdog** · 26th January 2005, 16:03

Originally Posted by Honda

But generally they put their foot in their mouth first

Don't be too hard on yourself dude

With a bit of luck they might learn as quick as you did

**spudchucka** · 26th January 2005, 18:52

Originally Posted by Clockwork

See.... its this "by the book..... I can't/wont think for myself" approach that pisses people off.

Still, I'm sure you must be right..... you're the Policeman and so I'll never do it again.

By the book? Piss off and read my previous posts about stop signs.

If you want "by the book" I'll have to ticket everyone that dawdles through a stop sign and that might piss a few people off. Can't please evryone though I guess and why should i care if a few people get annoyed? Fuck em, tehy should stick to the rules.

Thanks you've made me realise the errors of my ways and now I'll be ticketing every evil road criminal that fails to stop at my stop signs!

**denill** · 26th January 2005, 19:02

Originally Posted by spudchucka

Fuck em, tehy should stick to the rules.

Thanks you've made me realise the errors of my ways and now I'll be ticketing every evil road criminal that fails to stop at my stop signs!

Spudchucka, you are either on a power trip, driven by a uniform and shared by quite a few of your colleagues (My stop signs?) or taking the piss.

Which is it?

I am inclined to think the former.

BillW

**mikey** · 26th January 2005, 19:09

a lot of coppers are power driven wanks that cant get by in the real world cause they get bullied or something.... so they go wear a badge an wank on with the law behind them....

spud.... new guys are the only ones who bitch because they arent old fucking retards like you who are SENILE POWER TRIPPERS TRYING TO LIVEIN A WORLD THAT DOESNT EXIST

**Kickaha** · 26th January 2005, 19:27

Originally Posted by mikey

a lot of coppers are power driven wanks that cant get by in the real world cause they get bullied or something.... so they go wear a badge an wank on with the law behind them....

spud.... new guys are the only ones who bitch because they arent old fucking retards like you who are SENILE POWER TRIPPERS TRYING TO LIVEIN A WORLD THAT DOESNT EXIST

I thought you'd got over being a fuckwit,obviously I was mistaken

**mikey** · 26th January 2005, 19:33

nah some times i get this nasty knawing in my head that just turns me into the total fuck wit an i cant help it

maybe if i dint drink in the sun all day but it is fully amusing