NZ Police public image

[WINJA]

I guess someone who has never worked a day of his life would not be actually qualified to have an opinion regarding pay and worth...

LUCKILY IM A HARD WORKER AND PAY TAXES AND HAVE MY OWN BUSINESS AND IM AN EMPLOYER AND A LANDLORD SO YEAH IM QUALIFIED. YOU SOUND LIKE A FUCKWIT HONDA I BET YOUR A NOBODY IN A DEAD END JOB

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LUCKILY IM A HARD WORKER AND PAY TAXES AND HAVE MY OWN BUSINESS AND IM AN EMPLOYER AND A LANDLORD SO YEAH IM QUALIFIED. YOU SOUND LIKE A FUCKWIT HONDA I BET YOUR A NOBODY IN A DEAD END JOB

But probably not. I suspect that your full of shyte, have the personality of a dyslexic maggot and generally talk that much bullshit, that even you believe your own lies...

But then again not me, I'm just sitting here laughing at you like everyone else

[Lou Girardin]

But then again not me, I'm just sitting here laughing at you like everyone else

With him, at him, at least we're having a laugh.

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With him, at him, at least we're having a laugh.

Cheers

[scumdog]

LUCKILY IM A HARD WORKER AND PAY TAXES AND HAVE MY OWN BUSINESS AND IM AN EMPLOYER AND A LANDLORD SO YEAH IM QUALIFIED. YOU SOUND LIKE A FUCKWIT HONDA I BET YOUR A NOBODY IN A DEAD END JOB

Oh c'mon, you expect us to believe you do all that from a loony-bin? Hell, you're so full of shit!!!

Still, you make us laugh

[scumdog]

$42000 , IF YOU DONT LIKE IT GET ANOTHER JOB.

Yes, I think that's what Spuddy said in case you han't noticed.

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Oh c'mon, you expect us to believe you do all that from a loony-bin? Hell, you're so full of shit!!!

Still, you make us laugh

That if he actually knew what I do for a job, he might not put his feet so completely into the....

[T.I.E]

2)the member of the police may ask the person for help of any kind only if it is, in the cirumstances a reasonable necessity.

so just run past te police with ya fingers in ya ears so you can't hear them asking for help.

they have to ask for it.

but besides that they are right their image in the publics eye sucks big time. you can't protect your equpiment or possesions from being stolen by force. but when will the police turn up.

everyone needs to study the laws or legalities of a normal citizen and what you can actually do.

summary offences act, tresspass act, privacy act, bill of rights, aswell as many others.



have a look.

[scumdog]

2)the member of the police may ask the person for help of any kind only if it is, in the cirumstances a reasonable necessity.

so just run past te police with ya fingers in ya ears so you can't hear them asking for help.

they have to ask for it.

but besides that they are right their image in the publics eye sucks big time. you can't protect your equpiment or possesions from being stolen by force. but when will the police turn up.

everyone needs to study the laws or legalities of a normal citizen and what you can actually do.

summary offences act, tresspass act, privacy act, bill of rights, aswell as many others.



have a look.

What the hell happened here????? :spudwhat:

[Indoo]

If the discretionary limit was raised to (say) 130kph ,ie ticket at 130 regardless but 110 to 130 it's the cop's call on whether it was risky (and the cop explains *why* he thinks it was dangerous) , then I think the level of complaint would drop to similar to the breath test limit.

Thats just bullshit, all that would mean is that the defacto speed limit would raise to 130kmhs and anyone getting ticketed under that limit would bitch and whine that the cops were unfairly ticketing him. No doubt people travelling at 131kmh would kick up a hell of a stink as well if the Police dared stop them.

Not to mention the fact that the fatality rate would go through the roof, cages and bikes would still make the same ratio of stupid errors only have less chance to correct themselves and have a guarantee on death upon colllision.

So, John P feels the present *policing* of the speed limit is unreasonable . Not the limit himself, surveys tend to show that he goes along with that. And he's all in favour of the police cracking down on "real speeding". But, too often he's getting pinged for what he sees as technical offences not "real speeding"

Yeh because John P is the greatest driver on earth, its safe for him to drive at high speed becaues hes so fkin fantastic. Hes not a real speeder its only the other drivers eh.

Either he's right, and the police need to review their position. Or he's wrong and the police need to show him (and convince him) that that 111kph really was dangerous.At present he feels that the police aren't giving him a fair break.

The speed limit is 100kmh, giving someone a ticket for 11kmh over is wanky but needed in a way as well. If they didn't the defacto speed limit would raise higher and higher.

However that said the 'contact' ratio should be reduced and not as it often is be based on solely on speed. While excessive speed can make an otherwise avoidable crash avoidable ,attention should also be paid to poor driving which creates the possibility of a crash as well.

[scumdog]

Thats just bullshit, all that would mean is that the defacto speed limit would raise to 130kmhs and anyone getting ticketed under that limit would bitch and whine that the cops were unfairly ticketing him. No doubt people travelling at 131kmh would kick up a hell of a stink as well if the Police dared stop them.

Yeh because John P is the greatest driver on earth, its safe for him to drive at high speed becaues hes so fkin fantastic. Hes not a real speeder its only the other drivers eh.

The speed limit is 100kmh, giving someone a ticket for 11kmh over is wanky but needed in a way as well. If they didn't the defacto speed limit would raise higher and higher.

However that said the 'contact' ratio should be reduced and not as it often is be based on solely on speed. While excessive speed can make an otherwise avoidable crash avoidable ,attention should also be paid to poor driving which creates the possibility of a crash as well.

Good points there, a few years ago almost nobody got a ticket for 120kph or less due to "discretion" and wouldn't you know, the 'de facto speed limit WAS 120kph!!!

Most people would almost admit to being a poor lover than a poor driver- true, when was the last time somebody unprompted said "Shit, my drivings hopeless, I'm a below average driver at least"?

Pull up somebody for one offence and what is a common response? - you should be 'picking on' drivers who XXXXX (put in whatever offence that comes to your head) as if the offence they committed is less serious somehow??

And finally we have not yet developed that great device I have mentioned in other threads - the 'stupidometer' so apprehending other driving offences is a little harder than detecting speeding.

[Lou Girardin]

Good points there, a few years ago almost nobody got a ticket for 120kph or less due to "discretion" and wouldn't you know, the 'de facto speed limit WAS 120kph!!!

Most people would almost admit to being a poor lover than a poor driver- true, when was the last time somebody unprompted said "Shit, my drivings hopeless, I'm a below average driver at least"?

Pull up somebody for one offence and what is a common response? - you should be 'picking on' drivers who XXXXX (put in whatever offence that comes to your head) as if the offence they committed is less serious somehow??

And finally we have not yet developed that great device I have mentioned in other threads - the 'stupidometer' so apprehending other driving offences is a little harder than detecting speeding.

But no one went past a cop at 120.
People don't admit to being crap drivers, but periodic retesting would put it beyond doubt.
Your last point is the crux of the enforcement problem. Speeding is easy to detect and lucrative. The other offences are the true killers.

BTW The Northern Comms centre have done it again. They 'lost' a 111 call, they didn't respond till a second call 1 hr 20 mins later. Meanwhile, a teenager was beaten to a pulp.
Give these people a foot and a gun and they're the best marksmen in the world.

[scumdog]

But no one went past a cop at 120.

People don't admit to being crap drivers, but periodic retesting would put it beyond doubt.
Your last point is the crux of the enforcement problem. Speeding is easy to detect and lucrative. The other offences are the true killers.

BTW The Northern Comms centre have done it again. They 'lost' a 111 call, they didn't respond till a second call 1 hr 20 mins later. Meanwhile, a teenager was beaten to a pulp.
Give these people a foot and a gun and they're the best marksmen in the world.

(a)They still don't!!

(b)I agree, need tougher penalties for failing to give way, crossing 'no passing' lines etc - hell $150 ticket for a potentially lethal breach of rode code!! Not good enough.

(c)Don't work part time for the Otago Daily Times do you?

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(a)They still don't!!

(b)I agree, need tougher penalties for failing to give way, crossing 'no passing' lines etc - hell $150 ticket for a potentially lethal breach of rode code!! Not good enough.

(c)Don't work part time for the Otago Daily Times do you?

B/ yes of course, max them out then maybe people will follow the rules/law.

C/ probably...

[Pixie]

This crap is the same argument our health authorities use. I, for one, would rather have an unecessary op, than die. If men had proper lobby groups as women do, this kind of nonsense would be instantly dismissed.

True.Please note Tamihere's latest gaff;describing how our Feminazi govt.throws money at wimins issues but mens health isn't on the radar.