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[idb]

On the other hand we have someone who is saying ENOUGH!

If I'm right about who you are thinking of - I think his full statement is "Enough is Enough!".
When's the next rally anyway?

[drummer]

If I'm right about who you are thinking of - I think his full statement is "Enough is Enough!".
When's the next rally anyway?

Cripes I am not thinking of Tamaki and his bunch of zeal merchants.... he said Enough is Enough! But I agree with his words... not in his context though!

[Fart]

There needs to be a new leader running the police department to bring confidence back into the public. Then, the entire organisation needs a going over with a fine tooth combe. A review follow by recommendations of restructuring to bring the police department back into a standard that is expected by the public.

[drummer]

There needs to be a new leader running the police department to bring confidence back into the public. Then, the entire organisation needs a going over with a fine tooth combe. A review follow by recommendations of restructuring to bring the police department back into a standard that is expected by the public.

replace Hawkins for a start... then Herr Klarke... then then...

[Ixion]

There needs to be a new leader running the police department to bring confidence back into the public. Then, the entire organisation needs a going over with a fine tooth combe. A review follow by recommendations of restructuring to bring the police department back into a standard that is expected by the public.

None of which will help until the terms of the contract between the Commissioner and the Minister are revised (after which, all of the above are essential).

[drummer]

None of which will help until the terms of the contract between the Commissioner and the Minister are revised (after which, all of the above are essential).

yes... that is essentual. However the whole attitude from the top down needs renewal... and that means Government change. The attitude to government of crime is pathetic currently

[denill]

Hey Drummer, are you the Chairman of the committee to 'Get Rid Of Helen' ??

[drummer]

Hey Drummer, are you the Chairman of the committee to 'Get Rid Of Helen' ??

You mean Herr Dictator... the right unhonourable misery guts ugly Klarke, socialist wonder of Unzud,..... well now... I reckon that's the Don who's leader of that organisation you mention but I am in the frontline!

[igor]

I'm sure the injury was not a result of deliberate action but shit happens sometimes, my sympathy for him and hope they 'save' his thumb.

u sensitive new age guy u.

got any letters from the boss. r u on enforced holiday.

my new favorite song "like a puppit on a string"

[RDJ]

This is a concern:

Police ask farmer to investigate 111 call

22.04.05
by Louisa Cleave


A police officer asked a farmer to drive 12km to check on neighbours who made a 111 call from their remote Northland property.

Mr Russell said the officer asked whether he could "go down and have a look", and establish whether it was a genuine 111 call.

"He said there was a woman that rang 111 and there were male voices in the background and a lot of banging and crashing.

"The people in question had had a couple of serious incidents where they had been threatened and their dogs poisoned. So there was reason for the police to be concerned."



"It's a resourcing issue. Policing has to change and that's a management issue."

Mr Rickard said the officer used common sense and made the right decision.

He made it "very clear" he would attend, with back-up if required.

end quote

""He made it "very clear" he would attend, with back-up if required."" So that's all right then? Wait for someone to get hurt or killed and then come?

I am a supporter of police but this response - or lack of it - begs some serious questions to be asked of the management.

[drummer]

u sensitive new age guy u.

got any letters from the boss. r u on enforced holiday.

my new favorite song "like a puppit on a string"

Yeah a total marshmello! Work for myself... no-one else would b hard enough on me!

[drummer]

This is a concern:

Police ask farmer to investigate 111 call

22.04.05
by Louisa Cleave


A police officer asked a farmer to drive 12km to check on neighbours who made a 111 call from their remote Northland property.

Mr Russell said the officer asked whether he could "go down and have a look", and establish whether it was a genuine 111 call.

"He said there was a woman that rang 111 and there were male voices in the background and a lot of banging and crashing.

"The people in question had had a couple of serious incidents where they had been threatened and their dogs poisoned. So there was reason for the police to be concerned."



"It's a resourcing issue. Policing has to change and that's a management issue."

Mr Rickard said the officer used common sense and made the right decision.

He made it "very clear" he would attend, with back-up if required.

end quote

""He made it "very clear" he would attend, with back-up if required."" So that's all right then? Wait for someone to get hurt or killed and then come?

I am a supporter of police but this response - or lack of it - begs some serious questions to be asked of the management.

the police have severely let themselves down... If the police on the ground wanted to instigate change then for cripes sake... speak up!

[Indoo]

""He made it "very clear" he would attend, with back-up if required."" So that's all right then? Wait for someone to get hurt or killed and then come?

I am a supporter of police but this response - or lack of it - begs some serious questions to be asked of the management.

I think you will find that this is a typical media beatup.

Another article i read stated that the guys (who had called 111) Wife then took the phone and stated that Police weren't required.

I dunno if you quite know the area but depending on where this remote Northland farm was it could easily have taken the cop 6 hours to drive there and another 6 to drive back. All to attend a 111 call where the callers have told Police they didn't want them to attend.

Imo he did the right thing, asking a neighboor who lived close if he could just check on them to make sure everything was definately ok.

[RDJ]

Yes, I did read the full article (snipped some to save space) and I left out the response from the wife.

My answer is - how would we know unless the police attended whether a home invader was holding a gun or knife to wife or child to get her to say that?

As for distance - sorry, that doesn't cut it for me. If there is an emergency and you have to drive minutes or hours to get there and back that's what you do. In my last job I had to do the same. It's not whether we like it or not, it's just got to be done.

If the neighbour had found an invader and either was killed himself or killed the invader - police management would then inevitably say either "you have no right to take unnecessary risks" or "you have no right to act as a policeman".

My 2c, YMMV.

[Indoo]

And then something happens in Dargaville like an actual home invasion or serious domestic and the Police yet again get blamed by dipshits because they didn't turn up as they were chasing up a bullshit 111 call out in the boonies.