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[James Deuce]

If that's so, it makes him all the more reprehensible in that he's allowing a once proud and respected force to be demeaned as it is.
Never has the phrase "golden handcuffs" been so apt.

Nice picture in that AMPS advert.

[drummer]

Yeah I do. I think that political point scoring between a state run media system and privately owned media companies are creating a self-fueled loop.

It obscures the lack of funding of the Police and the fact that Government policy, not Police policy, has set up a paradigm of a partially self funded Police force via the punitive traffic regime implemented of late. I suppose you expect to keep your job if you tell the boss (or client if you are self-employed) to piss-off every time you are given a job or a project to complete. Principles don't put food on the table for your family, and most Police officers I know are principled but pragmatic enough to know what their priorities are. Police officers are people too you know.

Political entities are a different matter, and the current road traffic enforcement policy was approved by anyone who voted at the last 2 elections.

what you say I partly agree with however, no-one I have met and spoken with in recent times believes the police are doing a better job now than say 10 years ago. No blame aportioned here just a statement of fact.

[scumdog]

what you say I partly agree with however, no-one I have met and spoken with in recent times believes the police are doing a better job now than say 10 years ago. No blame aportioned here just a statement of fact.

Nobody asked me!!

Still doing the same job but spin-doctors and the media are driving a neg attitude

[Lou Girardin]

Nice picture in that AMPS advert.

Nice? You need to change your seeing eye dog.

[Lou Girardin]

Nobody asked me!!

Still doing the same job but spin-doctors and the media are driving a neg attitude

They'd have nothing to work with if some of your colleagues didn't give them ammunition.

[spudchucka]

Actually there is a public confidence survey commissioned by the Govt every year

Do you mind posting the latest survey results or a link to them? I'd like to have a read to see how I'm doing.

[spudchucka]

Spud For the record I would like you to show me the post where I argue about current law.... I don't... I say much of it is an ass... police procedures are failing NZer's... the Herald today finds that 1 in 3 kiwis have lost confidence in the constabulary... up significantly from a year ago... meanwhile you are burying your head in the sand and saying ...well it's the law... everythings ok... NO it's not ok Spud... things have to change!

You have become extremely boring and predictable. You want change? Vote National Front!

[Lou Girardin]

Do you mind posting the latest survey results or a link to them? I'd like to have a read to see how I'm doing.

Public confidence in you Spud has not changed.

[spudchucka]

Public confidence in you Spud has not changed.

I suppose you do count as "public" but I didn't need to see a survey to know what you think and quite frankly I don't care. Where's the link I asked for?

[Funkyfly]

Yeah I do. I think that political point scoring between a state run media system and privately owned media companies are creating a self-fueled loop.

Well I don't trust em anymore, I now view them as a necessary evil. This is because 1/2 of those i have met were shockers, power tripping fools.

I have also spent quite a bit of time inside a police station (working by the way) and was pretty shocked with the way they carried on and their comments.

[spudchucka]

Well I don't trust em anymore, I now view them as a necessary evil. This is because 1/2 of those i have met were shockers, power tripping fools.

I have also spent quite a bit of time inside a police station (working by the way) and was pretty shocked with the way they carried on and their comments.

I think I've posted this before. Its pretty melow dramatic but quite true.

Regarding your comments about the way cops carried on inside the police station, all I can say is that cops deal with all sorts of stuff on a daily basis that would make most people faint, black humour and silly antics is a legitimate way for cops to handle these experiences. It isn't unique to police, I know quite a few fire fighters that have similar coping mechanisms.

WHAT IS A POLICE OFFICER?



POLICE are human (believe it or not) just like the rest of us. They come

in both sexes but mostly male. They also come in various sizes. This

sometimes depends on whether you are looking for one or trying to hide

something. However, they are mostly big.



POLICE are found everywhere - on land, on sea, in the air, on horses,

in cars, sometimes in your hair. In spite of the fact that "you can't find

one when you want one", they are usually there when it counts most. The

best way to get one is to pick up the phone.



POLICE deliver lectures, babies, and bad news. They are required to have

the wisdom of Solomon, the disposition of a lamb and the muscles of steel

and are often accused of having a heart to match. He's/she's the one who

rings the door-bell, swallows hard and announces the passing of a loved

one; then spends the rest of the day wondering why he ever took such

a "crummy" job.



On TV, police are an oaf who couldn't find a bull fiddle in a telephone

booth. In real life they are expected to find a little blond boy "about

so high" in a crowd of a half million people. In fiction, he gets help

from private eyes, reporters, and "who-dun-it fans". In real life,

mostly all they get from the public is "I didn't see nuttin'."



When he serves a summons, he's a monster. If he lets you go, he's a doll.

To little kids he's either a friend or a bogeyman, depending on how

the parents feel about it. He works "around the clock" split shifts,

sundays and holidays, and it always kills him when a joker says,

"Hey, tomorrow is Election Day, I'm off, let's go fishing" (that's the

day he works 20 hours).



The police are like the little girl, who, when she was good, was very

very good, but, when she was bad, was horrid. When police are good, "he's

getting paid for it". When he makes a mistake "he's a grafter, and that

goes for the rest of them too." When they shoot a stick-up man he's a

hero, except when the stick-up man is only a 16 year old kid with a toy gun," and anybody coulda seen that".



Lots of them have homes, some of them covered with ivy, but most of them

covered with mortgages. If they drive a big car, he's a chiseler? a little

car, "who's he kidding?". His credit is good; this is very helpful, because

his salary isn't. Police raise lots of kids; most of them belong to

other people.



POLICE see more misery, bloodshed, trouble, and sunrises then the average

person. Like the postman, police must also be out in all kinds of weather.

The uniform changes with the climate, but the outlook on life remains about

the same; mostly a blank, but hoping for a better world.



POLICE like days off, vacation, and coffee. They don't like auto horns,

family fights, and anonymous letter writers. They have a union, but they

can't strike. They must be impartial, courteous, and always remember the

slogan "At your service". This is sometimes hard, especially when a

character reminds you "I'm a taxpayer, I pay your salary".



POLICE get medals for saving lives, stopping runaway horses, and shooting

it out with bandits (once in a while his widow gets the medal). but

sometimes, the most rewarding moment comes when, after some small kindness

to an older person, he feels the warm hand clasp, looks into grateful eyes

and hears, " Thank you and God bless you

Instead of jumping in to criticise why not try putting yourself in their shoes and see if that changes your opinions, even just a little.

[Funkyfly]

I think I've posted this before. Its pretty melow dramatic but quite true.

Regarding your comments about the way cops carried on inside the police station, all I can say is that cops deal with all sorts of stuff on a daily basis that would make most people faint, black humour and silly antics is a legitimate way for cops to handle these experiences. It isn't unique to police, I know quite a few fire fighters that have similar coping mechanisms.


Instead of jumping in to criticise why not try putting yourself in their shoes and see if that changes your opinions, even just a little.

What I heard wasn't black humour, it wasn't some way of coping, it was a blatant disregard for Joe public, a vulgar display of power.

Im well aware of what cops have to put up with, its all you seem to rabbit on about, but as ive said before cops are not forced to do this job, in fact they APPLIED for it! whats more they even get paid!

I say enuff of this "cops suffer on a daily basis" talk, they asked to do it, any of them are free to leave at anytime, plenty of jobs out there at the moment.

And whats more, how about taking responsibility, blaming cops bad attitude on the work load or govt law is pathetic, cops have no excuse for a bad attitude, they are paid to uphold the law and serve the public, if they cant handle it quit! At least quit the moaning.

"oh boohoo I saw this, I saw that, whoa is me, whaaaa"

Do your job well, if you cant, or you cant handle it find another job where your not in charge of people lives!

There is no excuse for the bad attitide prevalent in the highway patrol today.

[Wolf]

Regarding your comments about the way cops carried on inside the police station, all I can say is that cops deal with all sorts of stuff on a daily basis that would make most people faint, black humour and silly antics is a legitimate way for cops to handle these experiences. It isn't unique to police, I know quite a few fire fighters that have similar coping mechanisms.
Instead of jumping in to criticise why not try putting yourself in their shoes and see if that changes your opinions, even just a little.

Up at A&E in my earlier riding days (when I could almost have had my mail delivered there for the sake of efficiency) I got to see the extermely "dark" humour and larking about that the A&E staff used to engage in - don't blame them in the least, not considering the FUBARed people they dealt with on a daily basis. I can't see the cops, fire service, ambos or any other emergency personnel being any different than that, really.

[Lou Girardin]

The black humour is a fact of life. But, you don't take humiliating photos of 'customers' and you don't share that humour with outsiders. That smacks of an arrogant "can't touch me, I'm a cop" attitude. Solomona was hoist with his own petard. Good job, no loss. Now they can hire a decent cop to replace him.

[marty]

There is no excuse for the bad attitide prevalent in the highway patrol today.

you were obviously never stopped and given a ticket by an MOT unit then