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**Ms Piggy** · 17th January 2005, 10:51

Originally Posted by Honda

Not only this but I'm sure that many would be concerned that IF we came to the officer's aid that the Police would consider pressing assault charges for helping!!!

It's interesring that you bought this up Honda b/c I was thinking about posting about it and asking otehrs what they think. I've never been in a fight or been assaulted but, my initial thought was...well I probably wouldn't "assist" b/c there could be someo sort of confusion and I could end up being charged for assault myself!

It seems a little inconsistent to me. I'm not into slagging off cops b/c I know they have a bloody hard job but, I do find that there seems to be no consiostency when it comes to defending ones self. sometimes people are praised for their bravery and others times they are told off or even charged.

**justsomeguy** · 17th January 2005, 10:56

Another thing that is worrying is that if a person has some martial arts knowledge and he/she ends up having to defend themselves and manages to do so successfully...... the cops sometimes are a whole lot harder on that person....

Have any of you had similar experiences or stories?

**R1** · 17th January 2005, 11:08

Originally Posted by spudchucka

Firefight,

It is section 53 of the Police Act 1958 that you have posted from. Its an oldie but a goodie.

I've never charged anyone or had reason to charge anyone under that section but then I've never met WINJA, Honda or R1AaronKDX in person.

this looks a lot like fishing to me

If i saw you being bashed i would help.......the dudes bashing you

**Sniper** · 17th January 2005, 11:13

Originally Posted by justsomeguy

Another thing that is worrying is that if a person has some martial arts knowledge and he/she ends up having to defend themselves and manages to do so successfully...... the cops sometimes are a whole lot harder on that person....

Have any of you had similar experiences or stories?

Had one myself. 7 Years karate & Judo and 2 years CQB experience. I was in a diary one day when a pissed moron swung out at me and ended up breaking his arm on my body (I helped a little)

Then he tried taking me to court for assualt until the dairy owner said that it was a provoked attack by the guy. I mean Im not big by any means, 5'7", 80kgs and stocky. This guy was a giant compared to me but the cops still wanted to do me for unprovoked attack. Im still very confused.

Seems like all the training brain-washes some cops of common sense while others learn to listen to both sides of the story

**MSTRS:Me** · 17th January 2005, 12:02

Reading these posts just underlines the fact that cops are individuals too. They will get it wrong sometimes (and right others) but as 'professionals' they are paid to get it right. The ones that get it wrong deserve a good old bollocking esp. since they contribute to the bad name that the force has developed. The one's that get it right we seldom hear about. A change in priorities is overdue, but I don't see that happening in today's society. At a pinch I'd blame successive governments for our over-regulated, over-permissive, under-achieving nanny-state and the media for frontpaging the worst parts just to gain sales. This is also revenue gathering.

I don't know what needs to happen (does anyone?) but the saying goes 'If nothing changes, then nothing changes'. I'm off for a ride to clear my head.

**inlinefour** · 17th January 2005, 14:59

Originally Posted by Firefight

Not sure what your on about this time, but unlike yourself, I don,t hand out bad reps just because I don,t like what people post, must be one of your other kb freinds......

F/F

Well your welcome to believe what you want, but was not I. Perhaps you should take some of that advice your dishing out?

**inlinefour** · 17th January 2005, 15:00

Originally Posted by Skunk

: Telling a cop he has no idea about cop stuff...!

Because on this occasion I am aware of what the law states and it just goes to show that some people that think they are allways are right, aint

**inlinefour** · 17th January 2005, 15:03

Originally Posted by justsomeguy

Another thing that is worrying is that if a person has some martial arts knowledge and he/she ends up having to defend themselves and manages to do so successfully...... the cops sometimes are a whole lot harder on that person....

Have any of you had similar experiences or stories?

A chop to the throat to stop a girl having a go with a knife, then the Police treat me like a fucking criminal (finger printed and all) for defending myself!

**inlinefour** · 17th January 2005, 15:05

Originally Posted by MSTRS

Reading these posts just underlines the fact that cops are individuals too. They will get it wrong sometimes (and right others) but as 'professionals' they are paid to get it right. The ones that get it wrong deserve a good old bollocking esp. since they contribute to the bad name that the force has developed. The one's that get it right we seldom hear about. A change in priorities is overdue, but I don't see that happening in today's society. At a pinch I'd blame successive governments for our over-regulated, over-permissive, under-achieving nanny-state and the media for frontpaging the worst parts just to gain sales. This is also revenue gathering.

I don't know what needs to happen (does anyone?) but the saying goes 'If nothing changes, then nothing changes'. I'm off for a ride to clear my head.

Gotta agree with that one completely

**Firefight** · 17th January 2005, 15:06

I guess when Honda becomes a senior memeber, he will find out that it is very easy to see who gives reps to who..

F/F

**inlinefour** · 17th January 2005, 15:07

Originally Posted by SpeedMedic

The rep point was from me.
FF a good mate of mine

And just like FF you spit the dummy also...

**inlinefour** · 17th January 2005, 15:10

Originally Posted by Firefight

I guess when Honda becomes a senior memeber, he will find out that it is very easy to see who gives reps to who..

F/F

I guess so, but the funny thing is that on one occasion you are wrong. What I'm intersted in is are you able to identify it and able to accept it...

**Motoracer** · 17th January 2005, 15:18

I stand on "helping the cops" side of the fence.

Bring it on ya pricks! *grabs* a baseball bat

**Sniper** · 17th January 2005, 15:26

Originally Posted by Honda

And just like FF you spit the dummy also...

Honda, play nice. The guy was just being nice. I stand by the fact that everyone has their own opinions for whatever reasons. I dont try and change that. Opinions matter.

Imagine how boring life would be if we were all the same, blah blah blah. You guys know the rest.

Honda, just as a favour if you may, please read all the posts and write one big thing up about them, not 5 or 6 quotes, it gets annoying. Well for me anyway, Im not sure on others.