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[Funkyfly]

Please don't tell me you honestly believe that what you and funkyfly have contributed is 'constructive criticism' and claim that you have offered 'suggestions'. All you two have done is make ridiculous generalisations and bag the police in general. Whats even funnier is that your acting all aggreived and innocent when people respond inkind.

I have offered my own personal experiences to help the local cops see what is going on out there. No generalisations, only facts. Like Drummer said maybe you should read the posts.

At least what i have contributed has been in good taste, not calling people uneducated and saying they lack wisdom, pulling down their grammar and the likes. You sound like you think your so high and mighty Indoo .

[RDJ]

A suggestion... this thread has gotten too long, and generates more heat than light, so wouldn't it now be better for everyone to quietly turn off its oxygen supply?

Perhaps a senior member could shut it down and start up a more-motorcycling-orientated one instead. For example:

"why do so many cruiser riders wear flame pattern shirts with denim jeans. Is it for the same reason that so many sportbike riders wear leather gloves embossed with plastic studs. Discuss."

[idb]

A suggestion... this thread has gotten too long, and generates more heat than light, so wouldn't it now be better for everyone to quietly turn off its oxygen supply?

Perhaps a senior member could shut it down and start up a more-motorcycling-orientated one instead. For example:

"why do so many cruiser riders wear flame pattern shirts with denim jeans. Is it for the same reason that so many sportbike riders wear leather gloves embossed with plastic studs. Discuss."

Spoilsport!
I agree with jazbug, I think we're about to see something remarkable and beautiful occur here.
Don't disturb the wildlife - we have to be very, very quiet.....

[drummer]

A suggestion... this thread has gotten too long, and generates more heat than light, so wouldn't it now be better for everyone to quietly turn off its oxygen supply?

Perhaps a senior member could shut it down and start up a more-motorcycling-orientated one instead. For example:

"why do so many cruiser riders wear flame pattern shirts with denim jeans. Is it for the same reason that so many sportbike riders wear leather gloves embossed with plastic studs. Discuss."

You are probably right... but the debate is interesting to say the least.

[marty]

Dude Spud doesnt want to listen, esp to a couple of guys like us how have had the stuffing kncocked out of em by cops and want to tell the world.

I got no response from him at all to one of my bad experiences a couple of posts ago, it outlined exactly what we have been talking about, i think we just got to take the higher road and accept Spud wont listen to us.

Cant reason with everyone.

Ride on while you still can

maybe he just can't be fucked listening to a couple of bleaters, especially while he's not working.

[marty]

and, the police do not prosecute, they lay an information on behalf of the crown. the police are merely the crown's agent.

[RDJ]

Spoilsport!
I agree with jazbug, I think we're about to see something remarkable and beautiful occur here.
Don't disturb the wildlife - we have to be very, very quiet.....

Ah... I don't think I can bear to watch to the end

[RDJ]

You are probably right... but the debate is interesting to say the least.

If only it would improve to the level of debate!

[Clockwork]

Carefull RDJ

..... get any closer and you too will tumble into the vortex!!

[James Deuce]

You are probably right... but the debate is interesting to say the least.

I haven't seen any debate. I've just seen a couple of guys waling away on government employees with a limited right of reply, and no hope of ever comunicating the underlying motivation for taking on the job and sticking with it, due to some hardline and uninformed views.

Bigotry has many forms.

[RDJ]

Carefull RDJ..... get any closer and you too will tumble into the vortex!!

'"I tried to get out... but they sucked me back in!!!!!""
(now look who's not raising the tone... I have been assimilated!)

[Funkyfly]

I haven't seen any debate. I've just seen a couple of guys waling away on government employees with a limited right of reply, and no hope of ever comunicating the underlying motivation for taking on the job and sticking with it, due to some hardline and uninformed views.

Bigotry has many forms.

Well i can sleep easy knowing my GSXR would kick your yammys butt any day. Arh yes, the serenity of bigotry, fantastic.

[spudchucka]

yep... but you know what... I just have seen the change in the general attitude of the police since I returned from Aussie. Seems that Spud is merely carrying on with that... he will not listen to us... because we, according to his measure... are not educated.

You surely aren't another escaped Iraqi harbouring in NZ. What did happen to the misinformation minister? Beating his drum on KB perhaps?

I have no idea what your education level is. I have said on the issue that you are bleating about that you have not educated yourself sufficiently to have an understanding of the issues involved. There is a difference between being generally uneducated, (which you allege I have suggested you are), and expressing a poorly informed opinion, (which you are actively engaged in).

[spudchucka]

yep... but you know what... I just have seen the change in the general attitude of the police since I returned from Aussie. Seems that Spud is merely carrying on with that... he will not listen to us... because we, according to his measure... are not educated. Instead of encompassing and listening, he criticises our concerns as being irrelevant whilst telling us we shouldn't voice or concerns.

What an absolute load of rot... perhaps all the police reps here should read their own slogan. "BUILDING SAFER COMMUNITIES TOGEATHER"

Have a look at this.. (taken from their own website)
"We aim to work in partnerships to build safer communities by:
Empowering communities to deal with issues of community safety and creating more effective community partnerships."

Yet when a debate is underway, and suggestions offered... our own "police on the ground" want nothing to do with a partnership, they eventually counter constructive criticism with abuse... and block their ears... because WE AREN'T EDUCATED!!! I can only be thankful that some police on the ground.. DO care about what the public thinks... and are concerned at the rising lack of confidence in the force.

It would be laughable if it were fiction but it is tragic because it's factual.

Posting everything twice? Thats a good way to boost your post count!

[spudchucka]

Spud.... abuse shows you up... I thought you were above that... So here we have it... folks.. here we have a cop that doesn't agree that I should have an opinion about the police different to him and what comes out... abuse. Case proven Spud...

Have whatever opinion you want. However if you want to have your opinion taken seriously then I sugget you research your background material beforehand.