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[scumdog]

I'll add to my previous answer... partly because you have pushed my button. You are by the way you talk, telling me that I am bagging the police... you also are I take it suggesting that I don't really have that right. On both accounts you prove yourself to be one of those who want to gag the public. Your world it seems would have no criticism of authority... because athority is always right. Your see through your rose tinted glasses a police force that is above criticism, above question and above reproach. You see a NZ police force that is efficient and trustworthy... but if you even cared to face the facts that you obviously don't give a sh*t about, you would see a rapidly increasing percentage of the public who are losing faith in the police. That, my dear boy is a concern to me and if you opened your tightly closed eyes and ears would be clear to you as well.

That aint "bagging" the police mate... thats just telling it like it is and being concerned enough to comment.

Blah, blah, blah, join the queue !!!!

[dart1202]

I concerned to really hear that all, the police don't have pity compassion or mind to others..
they police ought to take care of and protect its citizen so that calm and peaceful, equal to my place here easy police once [in] bribing.
hell the police that

[idb]

I concerned to really hear that all, the police don't have pity compassion or mind to others..
they police ought to take care of and protect its citizen so that calm and peaceful, equal to my place here easy police once [in] bribing.
hell the police that

You wouldn't believe the half of it.
Most of us live in constant fear of the knock on the door.

[Kickaha]

You wouldn't believe the half of it.
Most of us live in constant fear of the knock on the door.

With Scumdog down in your neck of the woods,I'd be worried about that to,he'd probably eat and drink you out of house and home

[marty]

that's because that was what we were talking about. you changed the subject. and ERO does not audit, it simply evaluates.

but you knew that too.

[James Deuce]

I'll add to my previous answer... partly because you have pushed my button. You are by the way you talk, telling me that I am bagging the police... you also are I take it suggesting that I don't really have that right. On both accounts you prove yourself to be one of those who want to gag the public. Your world it seems would have no criticism of authority... because athority is always right. Your see through your rose tinted glasses a police force that is above criticism, above question and above reproach. You see a NZ police force that is efficient and trustworthy... but if you even cared to face the facts that you obviously don't give a sh*t about, you would see a rapidly increasing percentage of the public who are losing faith in the police. That, my dear boy is a concern to me and if you opened your tightly closed eyes and ears would be clear to you as well.

That aint "bagging" the police mate... thats just telling it like it is and being concerned enough to comment.

Ahh oops. You obviously think I give a damn.

I'll go back to my continuing thread in this particular thread.

It's a motorcycle forum. We're here to talk and enjoy bikes, including Police people who ride them.

You're just sucking the joy out of it for a large number of people.

Go whinge in the right forum. You know. Write letters to your MP.

Oh, and by the way, everything in life is a privilege. No one has any rights. To demand rights is to loudly proclaim your disregard for every other person you share this country with. Individual rights are a Post Modern construct and allow whingers to bang on about how terrible their life is, without being told to shut up.

If you wanted to have a discussion about Police policy and how we go about constructively changing it, fine. You didn't. You attacked people because of their career, irrespective of their "rights" not to have to listen to people with NO idea bitching about things that they refuse to do anything constructive about. Except whinge on the Internet web forum thingy. Yeah that'll change things.

I'm also heartily sick of your incessant whiney demands that people prove that they are changing things to suit your interpretation of how things should work. You've presented no compelling argument, no facts, and no diplomacy. Just opinion, hyperbole, and a good dose of media brain washing. Why should I give a damn about what you think I should think?

[scumdog]

You wouldn't believe the half of it.
Most of us live in constant fear of the knock on the door.

Me too mate: staggers to the back door half asleep 'cos just got to bed from night shift to find some local slack-jawed mouth breather standing there with a dog-eared ticket in his hand saying "I know you're not on duty (do tell, I suppose the camo nightshirt gave THAT away) but I wonder if you can tell me how I can get off this ticket 'cos I can't afford to lose my licence"? produces ticket that was issued three weeks ago for 121kph on a road about 40km from here and issued by some HP bloke I've never met!!!!!

Arghhh!!!

See, we ALL fear knocks on the door.

P.S. Yeah, Not the best part of my job to do an 'Informing'.

[idb]

P.S. Yeah, Not the best part of my job to do an 'Informing'.

Wassat?910

[scumdog]

Wassat?910

When you inform somebody their beloved won't be coming home.

[idb]

When you inform somebody their beloved won't be coming home.

I can see that wouldn't be good at all.

[Lou Girardin]

The speed was 113 as I recall, which is out of context in a discussion about licence snatching offences. Did the guy prove that he didn't speed or did he simply create reasonable doubt? As I've said before I won't ticket anyone unless I'm 110% certain of the offence and the offender. If this cop had lower standards than that at the time of this incident then hopefully he has raised them accordingly.

Apparently the court felt that he proved he wasn't speeding, ergo the cop was wrong. The worry is, how often does this happen? Most people do not have GPS sustems to prove the charges wrong.

[Lou Girardin]

You did? I didn't notice so don't worry about it.



By that measure Police shouldn't be inflicting any instant punishments on anyone. Including taking people into custody, impounding racing cars, suspending the licenses of drunk drivers etc.

The law incorporates instant punishments to stop people from continuing to commit what it considers dangerous offences immediately. Its basically aimed to stop these people committing the same offences until they can be brought before the court. You would'nt really want a system whereby every recidivist drunk driver was allowed to keep on driving until a court appearence some 10 months down the track.

You have missed the point. The Police have had powers to deal with all these issues prior. If the speed is dangerous or he's a repeat drink/driver, arrest the him. If the car is unsafe, write it off the road etc.
These people are being punished without charges being proved.

[scumdog]

Apparently the court felt that he proved he wasn't speeding, ergo the cop was wrong. The worry is, how often does this happen? Most people do not have GPS sustems to prove the charges wrong.

C'mon Lou, that one is dead, stop chasing your tail/trolling - or are you just trying to raise your posting count as well as this old red herring?????

It is deceased, it is no more, it has ceased to exist, it has shuffled off its mortal coil, it is an ex-parrot.

[Lou Girardin]

Its dangerous to travel at high speeds. Thats why laws were passed to deal with the worst offenders quickly and efficiently. Retaining your drivers licence is your responsibility.

If it's dangerous, why is that charge not used?
The Chinese also have a very quick and efficient system of punishment applied upon conviction for many offences. (Used to be a bullet, now it's lethal injection). No messy appeal process and there's no comeback from the offender if they were innocent either.
would you like this in NZ?

[scumdog]

If it's dangerous, why is that charge not used?
The Chinese also have a very quick and efficient system of punishment applied upon conviction for many offences. (Used to be a bullet, now it's lethal injection). No messy appeal process and there's no comeback from the offender if they were innocent either.
would you like this in NZ?

It would be an accepted sad fact of life, - kinda like all the road deaths in NZ
(despite the fact the majority are preventable and involve too much velocity for the occassion.)