Hells Angel leader killed

[The Lone Rider]

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...BAP812NFPK.DTL



I'm all for freedom, but I've never understood how 1% clubs can call themselves that other than for being aggressive and usually drug dealers and similar.

Frankly I think you can live that lifestyle without dealing, prostituting etc.

Notorious as a motorcycle club with a membership consisting mainly of criminals, this is sure to deaden things a bit for them. Until they find out who did it I guess.

[Subike]

Are you speaking from personal knowlage?
Or from media reports and police reports that we all know are tainted.
Labels stick for years, sepecially when the media and police propogate them for their own reason.
One of our CHCH MC clubs changed thier name for this very reason, an incident happened that was blown all out of proportion by the media and police, which ended up with innocents being labeled as criminals.

Sure The Hells Angels are not "angels" but are they really as bad as suggested?

[T.W.R]

Least it wasn't Sonny Barger, just the SF chapter leader; but there's sure to be retribution

As the biggest gang in the world, there's plenty of crims but they aren't all in the same barrel.

Subike leave the Templers to their own devises

[The Lone Rider]

Are you speaking from personal knowlage?
Or from media reports and police reports that we all know are tainted.
Labels stick for years, sepecially when the media and police propogate them for their own reason.
One of our CHCH MC clubs changed thier name for this very reason, an incident happened that was blown all out of proportion by the media and police, which ended up with innocents being labeled as criminals.

Sure The Hells Angels are not "angels" but are they really as bad as suggested?

I think video of Hells Angels in huge masses killing and beating others, and selling off crack speaks enough for itself. For a huge international club it'd be hard to police behaviour of members, if in fact they have such a thing as club charta. It'd interesting to see if there was video or photos of HOG members, for example, doing similar.

Then there are also lots of high profile members. I'm pretty sure Jesse James is a member. And isn't Jack Nicolson?

And Russ Crowe is in some sort of 1% MC.

Still don't get the 1% thing. Can understand MC and wearing club logos, no harm in that. You and I have both been together in the same pub filled with Devils Henchmen. No problems there was there. Except for you and the other guys hassling me about "Oxford Girl"

[NOMIS]

Are you speaking from personal knowlage?
Or from media reports and police reports that we all know are tainted.
Labels stick for years, sepecially when the media and police propogate them for their own reason.
One of our CHCH MC clubs changed thier name for this very reason, an incident happened that was blown all out of proportion by the media and police, which ended up with innocents being labeled as criminals.

Sure The Hells Angels are not "angels" but are they really as bad as suggested?

Ahh guy who taught me through my aprenticship was one, and um yes he was as bad as suggested just not vocal about it. not there nay more he moved " um clubs "

[avgas]

hmmmm im sorry but mabey its becuase i ride alone.
gangs are just that - clubs are a different kettle of fish.
Hells Angels have always been a gang - much like the Filthy Few.
As for the patch thing i have no problem with that - but when its on your face not your jacket you have issues. People only do that for 1 reason.

Those that live by the sword die by the sword. Gangs were a path that i looked at when i was younger - but they are really a waste of space and pathetic loss in self motivation.
No point kicking their arses to get them to do something, that is all the motivation they have had in the past anywho. Waste of air. Pointless existance and should be treated as such.

[slowpoke]

Sure The Hells Angels are not "angels" but are they really as bad as suggested?

Haha, they have hooked you well and good! They have purposely constructed this myth that they are just good boys gone bad, riding hard and playing harder....and it's just a smokescreen. The things they've done over the years, and continue to do, would turn your stomach. And don't think it's nothing to do with us, they have affiliated chapters/gangs virtually worldwide, including Australia and New Zealand.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Sure The Hells Angels are not "angels" but are they really as bad as suggested?

Worse probably. They're just smart enough to keep a (relatively) low profile.

[Subike]

Fair comments guys, so apart from drugs (Pharmacitical companies), beatings (police tactic), stand over tactics (governments), protection rackets (Inland revenue department), porn (any television co/ magazine producer), What do they do that is outside of the white collar crime (that they cant do cause they bikers).
OK they ride Hareys, are sad fuckers, should be shot on site, wear patches, tatoos etc.
I guess that they are all round bad muther fuckers and the world would be better without them.
I wonder what they bought into the motorcycling world with their ideas?
There must be something these sad asses did that was worth while.

[The Lone Rider]

OK they ride Hareys, are sad fuckers, should be shot on site, wear patches, tatoos etc.
I guess that they are all round bad muther fuckers and the world would be better without them.
I wonder what they bought into the motorcycling world with their ideas?
There must be something these sad asses did that was worth while.

I see nothing wrong with harleys, patches, and tattoos.

I know some all round bad muther fuckers, but they are still pretty nice guys hehe.

They brought a fair bit, and took a fair bit.

Anyway I posted this up as I was watching motorcycle mania 4, and noticed jesse james had hells angels stuff all over the place and a nice hells angel mural in his shop. Looked up something on google and ran into that article that he'd been shot.

Hells Angels are a bike club. Some of their principles hold true in all bike clubs. I don't condone the violence, drug dealing, and such that their members have done.

If they were all like you Dave, except for your new found Harley hating - you used to be more quiet about them! :P - the Hells Angels would ALL be a bunch of alright guys.

Mods - Dave and I know each other and he has no problem with me using his name. Likewise/vice versa. Don't hurt me mods.

[trustme]

A while back I used to meet a few Angels , we had a few beers & they were OK, I also knew a detective who wised me up on some of their antics,
They have a pretty effective PR machine , but I always remember being told
'You treat us right we'll treat you better, fuck with us & we are your worst nightmare' You better believe it , I saw it in operation
FWIW I would place the other gangs further down the gene pool , but ultimately they are all best kept very much at arms length.

[Her_C4]

'You treat us right we'll treat you better, fuck with us & we are your worst nightmare'

A philosophy I hold dear to my heart.......

[rachprice]

Anyone read hunter thompsons book 'hell's angels'?
he effectively joined the gang for about 2 years, wrote about the shit they got up to in the late 60's (i think)
Most were pretty bad but from his point of view not nearly as bad as the media made them out to be

[Conquiztador]

Anyone read hunter thompsons book 'hell's angels'?
he effectively joined the gang for about 2 years, wrote about the shit they got up to in the late 60's (i think)
Most were pretty bad but from his point of view not nearly as bad as the media made them out to be

Yep, have read it. Liked the part where they were the trial users of LSD for research purpose...lol

[awayatc]

There are hundreds, if not thousands, of people who are going to miss him ."

What matters though is the one guy who didn't miss him......