Exiting the NZ Army?

[Manxman]

IMHO he'd be crackers to leave so early.

Think about what the Army offers:
Mateship
Life skills
Employability (when he eventually leaves)
Pretty good pay (some trades are up 15%)
Trade skills
Overseas travel
Career progression
A good employer
An organisation you can be proud of (I'm told it's becoming an employer of choice)

Where else can you get that so early in your career/life?

Unless he has a compelling reason to leave, persuade him to stay. He won't regret it.

[young1]

Again thanks for all the replies. I have written to him today putting in many of your positive comments about the army and also a comparison of what he has there (job, career, opportunities, good pay, etc etc) to what he has if he came home (no job, no career, no car - as he won't be able to afford his loan repayments and I am not going to help him if he quits).

So again thank you everyone. Keep your fingers crossed that he does stick at it.

M

[KiwiRat]

I managed to get out of the Navy within one week of signing my 717. I had an apprenticeship lined up (requested to get out early). Mine was probably not the usual case... We had completed trade training and were waiting to go to sea, three intakes of technicians sitting on their arse all day, talking shit and reading magazines. Hard life. They sent eight of us onto a frigate for one month to keep us occupied, from an engineering viewpoint, what a crock of shit that was, hence three of us left afterwards.

All thru training, basic and trade, we were able to get out within days of signing the 717, was not until we passed out that we had to give the three months notice. Not sure If the Army is the same, but I can't see why they'd keep someone there in a training environment that doesn't want to.

Don't really understand your reasoning for leaving.

Bored, or couldn't get past the fact that the RNZN doesn't revolve around basic trainees?

Sorry, penny just dropped. You had an apprenticeship lined up in Civvy St ?

You should have tried to wangle one out of Pussers.

[sAsLEX]

Don't really understand your reasoning for leaving.

Bored, or couldn't get past the fact that the RNZN doesn't revolve around basic trainees?

Sorry, penny just dropped. You had an apprenticeship lined up in Civvy St ?

You should have tried to wangle one out of Pussers.

At a guess Coop spent a fair bit of time in NPRC, which just drains all motivation from anyone.

Problem 1: Navy was getting a new fleet of 7 ships so desperately needed more numbers to train to be Ready Day 1 when the vessels arrived.

Problem 2: Day 1 was a wee while ago and we have one of the 7 ships!?

[firefighter]

Iv'e served in the defence force 7 years, 4 years Navy, 3 years Airforce, so my advice is probably worth listening to.......yes you can just get out during recruit course (basic/whatever the fuck army calls it) yes Army is not the same as Navy/A.Force, BUT they work the same as in, if you want out, they won't make you stay as it's not in THIER best interest, if you stay, make no mistake, the Defence Force does EVERYTHING to suit it's own best interests....trust me. So yes, they don't want to keep someone who wants out desperately during basic, really, in fact, if you start telling everyone you want out during recruit training, (instructors) tell them your serious, you'll leave so fast you'll forget you were even there....) because believe it or not they won't waste anymore time, resources, money training those who don't want to be there right at the start....


EDIT: ACTUALLY WANNABIKER HAS THE INFO TO LISTEN TO!

[firefighter]

He signed the contract now deal with it!

No red for you, but you seem a little out of touch with how the NZDF works.....the contract is more for the NZDF so they can throw you out, lol.

If the Army is absolutely not for him, then honestly, why stay?

[young1]

He rang me last night, seems a lot happier now! Realises that he has to guts it out etc etc. So fingers crossed!

[Number One]

How exactly does one 'quite' btw? Sounds like something I might like to try next time things get tough

[scumdog]

He has told me that 4 left in the first week, not sure if that was before or after they did the big signing up thing.

Fark, what a bunch of pansies, sheesh we're in trouble if this is the calibre of incoming recruits.

Tell your boy to hang-on, it's all a matter of gumption. guts and team-work.

Sadly modern schooling does not promote such qualities - let alone train you for a life of it.

[sAsLEX]

Sadly modern schooling does not promote such qualities - let alone train you for a life of it.

I think Mark summed it up rather well in Sports Cafe last night when interviewing the Breakers basketball chap, the team which is having no captain this year, when he said it would never work and that no one wins these days but 1 - 10th all get the same place!?!?

[cheese]

In the Navy you can walk out of basic training any time you want. Just asy the word and you can leave. ofter you finished training its 3 months notice. you can always leave earlier if wanted.

but......

Tell him to stick it out for at least a year. I hated the Navy a the 5 month mark as was going to leave - ended up staying 6.5 years.

[coop]

At a guess Coop spent a fair bit of time in NPRC, which just drains all motivation from anyone.

Problem 1: Navy was getting a new fleet of 7 ships so desperately needed more numbers to train to be Ready Day 1 when the vessels arrived.

Problem 2: Day 1 was a wee while ago and we have one of the 7 ships!?

Lol yep thats the one mate. Being a seventh former back in 2005, the recruiters came round and told us it was the perfect time to join... seven new ships on the horizon etc. Fast forward to now, and it's too bad we only have one... That can't even sail! Two weeks ago my flat mate (AMT) said the same shit to potential recruits at a careers expo haha.

When I had left the puss there were around 45 ordinary rate stokers sitting a NPRC, I'm not sure what the story is now, but I hear the ODs are going onto ship (along side, of course) and getting their taskbook done within a week, eligible for promotion. It may take me 4 years to get the same quals in civvie st, but I know I'll be better off for it.