Ima gonna give programming a go...

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I had a go at school along time ago. I would not like to have to do it agin. Got offered a job in data entry in IT, but could not go through with it.

[Biff]

Programming - you geek. Get a life.


























I studied Pascal, so for heavens sake study something useful!!

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Programming - you geek. Get a life.
I studied Pascal, so for heavens sake study something useful!!

Haha yeah... fuck I don't know how to respond :spudwhat:

Just leave me alone ya barrsstad. It took me a lot of courage to come out of the closet.

(PT)<--- do I need this bloody thing? :spudwhat:

[jrandom]

Got offered a job in data entry in IT, but could not go through with it.

Well, you certainly wouldn't have been any closer to being a programmer if you'd *taken* the job, either. :spudwhat:

[MrMelon]

If you're going to learn programming, I think the best way to go about it and have some fun in the process is to think of something you'd like to do using software, and then learn what you need to do to achieve it. Just keep it simple to start with and build upon it as you get better.

If you've got a goal you can work towards, you'll probably keep interest for a lot longer than if you're just following tutorials from a book or a website. And at the end of it you get some cool software that actually does something useful, and you wrote it and know exactly how it works.

This is what worked for me anyway. I got bored reading programming books and just decided that I wanted some software that'd track my progress at the gym so that I'd easily be able to see that I was getting better each week, so I sat down and read some php and mysql tutorials, and figured out how I could make a series of pages to input and display text fields and draw graphs, and to store all of the info in a database.. 2 days later I had a functional page that worked well for what I'd intended and I ended up using it for a year and a half. That was the first time I'd ever really done any programming.

[dhunt]

My suggestion would be learn a language that gains your interest such as c or maybe python in your case and play round with it/learn it. At a later state if that didn't bore you to death do what JR suggests and learn a bit of assembly.

Also give yourself some projects to do other wise it will be boring and you won't learn much.

[matthewt]

Also give yourself some projects to do other wise it will be boring and you won't learn much.

Good call. I wanted a program to rename my digital photos using a name and a running number so for a laugh I did it in Java. I'd done heaps of other languages but not Java. It was quite fun.

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Thanks for the continuing opinions gang.

[NordieBoy]

I can learn the basics of programming in the generic sense with whatever language I think I can handle but to really get into the groove and experience the somewhat "euphoria"... (another programming language I believe) of being able to accomplish things by way of issuing instructions, looking at things at the ground level where all the orks roam would be a good idea. Yes??

Euphoria is a nice little language but you'll have problems getting books on it.
I found the way it did things made me think more and offered some insights into things I could apply to other languages I hadn't thought of.

This is true of all languages though.

I'd be looking at scripting languages first to get an idea of data structures/program flow type stuff and once you're comfortable with that sort of thing then getting more low-level.
Because computers are so fast now people have forgotten how to optimise, there's none of the old-school "Oh look! I saved a byte, and a cycle!" type mentality although that still lives on it the emedded systems area.

[NordieBoy]

I studied Pascal, so for heavens sake study something useful!!

Like Delphi?

[jrandom]

Because computers are so fast now people have forgotten how to optimise, there's none of the old-school "Oh look! I saved a byte, and a cycle!" type mentality although that still lives on it the emedded systems area.

Meh. Even in the embedded space, optimisation is very, very rarely about saving cycles.

*Real* optimisation is about analysing the computational complexity of your program, and choosing an approach that is most efficient.

You might make a program run 10% faster by tweaking loops in assembler, but sometimes you can make the same program run orders of magnitude faster by thinking carefully about your algorithms.

[Biff]

(PT)<--- do I need this bloody thing? :spudwhat:

Nah, don't worry mate, I don't take anything that's said here seriously.

Enjoy, and once you're qualified drop me a line.

[Biff]

Like Delphi?

Is she cute?

[jrandom]

Enjoy, and once you're qualified drop me a line.

Oi! *I* get first dibs on hiring any KB programmers. Hands bloody off, mister.

[jrandom]

Is she cute?

Since Anders Hejlsberg moved to Microsoft to work on C# and the .NET class library, she's way past her use-by date.

The Borland VCL is, IMO, the *previous* decade's Windows development environment.