Maybe they were just hoping fans were deaf after years of metal?Originally Posted by jrandom
The difference is rather pronounced!
Kiwi back at home!
Maybe they were just hoping fans were deaf after years of metal?
The difference is rather pronounced!
Here to make everything METAL
Yeah I love this album. It is KILLER.
I think The End Of The Line has to be my favourite track. I heard a live version of that a few years back, and the live version was pretty horrible in contrast to what ended up on the album.
Cyanide is really fun to jam to on guitar - the only full song I've learned to play on the album so far. Unforgiven 3 is awesome too, and I constantly find myself singing "All Nightmare Long" and "Broken, Beat and Scarred".
The sound issue doesn't bother me too much. If people think the production on this album is poor, they should go listen to St. Anger, IMHO.
What you have in your heart will be revealed through what you have in your life.
If things are going badly in our circumstances, the answer to what is happening to us outwardly is more often than not found in the mirror.
parting of the sensory
Indeed. I tried listening to 15 or 30 seconds of one, paused it, then did the same with the other. My hearing's not the best any more (too much biking without earplugs, too many litres of milk steamed with the espresso machine, too many power tools...) but even so, the difference was readily apparent.
Anyone who knew about this would feel a bit ripped off if they bought the album.
Mind you, it's the trend, innit? Max out the compression for radio and downloads, fuck the quality, no-one will notice. Probably true too, with a couple of generations walking around with headphones glued to their ears all day long....
... and that's what I think.
Or summat.
Or maybe not...
Dunno really....
parting of the sensory
Maybe that's the problem. Until the Great Unwashed Masses stand up and say, "Enough crap audio engineering - give us the real deal!", this is what you can expect.
... and that's what I think.
Or summat.
Or maybe not...
Dunno really....
Forum whore
Bugger this thread!!!
I absolutly loved it till I read through this damn thread!!
Now I want a deal where you bring the old one in and get a remixed one for $5 bucks!!!
Not that it would help? I'm a bit like Viffer my panelbeater, builder, loud music, karting and 2stroke damaged ears aren't the best?? Still could easily hear the difference between those two clips though.
On a Motorcycle you're penetrating distance, right along with the machine!! In a car you're just a spectator, the windshields like a TV!!
'Life's Journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out! Shouting, ' Holy sh!t... What a Ride!! '
Forum whore
Love it anyway. It is what it is.
I like it.
Sure I would like a remastered one. But only if they remastered it WITHOUT the compression. No guarantees they would do that.
This shit will ROCK live.
Hardcore Biker
James Hetfield took singing lessons.............James Hetfield lost his raw edge sound..............James Hetfield is now rather country music like in his singing (esp Reload).
I still like selected Metallica though, selected!!!
Forum whore
yeh I still love it mate. That post was a bit toungue in cheak not a real moan?? trouble with the written word there's no body language!! lol!!!!!!!
On a Motorcycle you're penetrating distance, right along with the machine!! In a car you're just a spectator, the windshields like a TV!!
'Life's Journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out! Shouting, ' Holy sh!t... What a Ride!! '
Forum whore
Yeah can be a bit tricky sometimes when you are typing things out!
UP THE IRONS (Maiden I know, but they ROCK)
on the up
Good point. Without modification of his vocal style he'd never have lasted the distance. Metal singers don't usually have a long career.
And I to my motorcycle parked like the soul of the junkyard. Restored, a bicycle fleshed with power, and tore off. Up Highway 106 continually drunk on the wind in my mouth. Wringing the handlebar for speed, wild to be wreckage forever.
- James Dickey, Cherrylog Road.
Heavy Metal Thunder
Hob Halford?
Brian Johnson (more rock that metal I'll grant you, but still a searing voice)?
Maynard James Keenan?
Bruce Dickinson?
Lemmy?
Joe Elliot?
Tom Araya?
Dave Mustaine? Well, OK he can't really sing as such
Destroy Everything! Destroy Everything! Destroy Everything! Obliterate what makes us weak!
Still rocking 2 Death Magnetic
METALLICA drummer Lars Ulrich has commented on the fan-generated controversy over the audio quality of the group's new album, "Death Magnetic".
Several articles from both the mainstream press and recording industry web sites have discussed the album in context of the so-called "Loudness Wars," a term used by UK publication The Guardian, which claims that the music industry is trying to make recordings as loud as possible mainly to stand out on radio.
An audio clip has surfaced on YouTube comparing music from the "Death Magnetic" CD to tracks from the album used for Guitar Hero, which were prepared differently. A number of fans prefer the Guitar Hero versions.
A petition circulated by some fans asking the band to remix the CD has gathered 12,000 signatures, although they are dwarfed by the nearly a copies the CD has sold in the U.S. since going on sale September 12.
Ted Jensen, the engineer who mastered the album at Sterling Sound in New York, recently responded to fan complaints that the CD is too loud and the audio is pushed to distortion levels by writing, "I'm certainly sympathetic to your reaction, I get to slam my head against that brick wall every day. In this case the mixes were already brick-walled before they arrived at my place. Suffice to say I would never be pushed to overdrive things as far as they are here. Believe me, I'm not proud to be associated with this one, and we can only hope that some good will come from this in some form of backlash against volume above all else."
Mastering is the process of preparing and transferring recorded audio from a source containing the final mix to a data storage device, the "master," from which all copies will be produced.
Blame for the sound quality has been laid at the feet of the band itself, producer Rick Rubin and his recording engineer, Greg Fidelman.
In a brand new interview with Blender.com, Ulrich responded to the complaints by saying, "Listen, there's nothing up with the audio quality. It's 2008, and that's how we make records. Rick Rubin's whole thing is to try and get it to sound lively, to get it to sound loud, to get it to sound exciting, to get it to jump out of the speakers. Of course, I've heard that there are a few people complaining. But I've been listening to it the last couple of days in my car, and it sounds fuckin' smokin'.
"Somebody told me about [people complaining that the Guitar Hero version of 'Death Magnetic' sounds better]. Listen, what are you going to do? A lot of people say [the CD] sounds great, and a few people say it doesn't, and that's OK. You gotta remember, when we put out '...And Justice for All', people were going, 'What happened to these guys, this record? There's no bass on it. It sounds like it was recorded in a fuckin' garage on an eight-track.' And now '...And Justice for All' is sort of the seminal METALLICA record that supposedly influenced a whole generation of death-metal bands. The difference between back then and now is the Internet.
"The Internet gives everybody a voice, and the Internet has a tendency to give the complainers a louder voice. Listen, I can't keep up with this shit. Part of being in METALLICA is that there's always somebody who's got a problem with something that you're doing: 'James Hetfield had something for breakfast that I don't like.' That's part of the ride.
"I will say that the overwhelming response to this new record has exceeded even our expectations as far as how positive it is. So I'm not gonna sit here and get caught up in whether [the sound] 'clips' or it doesn't 'clip.' I don't know what kind of stereos these people listen on. Me and James made a deal that we would hang back a little and not get in the way of whatever Rick's vision was. That's not to put it on him — it's our record, I'll take the hit, but we wanted to roll with Rick's vision of how METALLICA would sound."
I ride the dirt, I ride the tide
I search the outside, search inside
I know I'll always burn to be
Remind me of what left this outlaw torn
~ The Outlaw Torn (Metallica: Load 1996)
Likes kiwifruit...
Well i love it. I do a little mixing myself (given not massivly good) and i prefer atmosfere over pure quality (live at least). I like the harshness of the album, fits with the names etc
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