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    That story is absoforkinglutely ridiculous. You all need to fight this ridiculous attitude, you're heading the same way the UK did, and that aint good.

    Granted if we lived in a country where there was a shortage of food I could see this being a genuine issue. As for the Maori thing - shit, get a grip. That's just plain pathetic. Just because one culture doesn't want to do something that does not mean that they have a god given right to dictate to another culture what is acceptable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Biff Baff
    That story is absoforkinglutely ridiculous. You all need to fight this ridiculous attitude, you're heading the same way the UK did, and that aint good.

    Granted if we lived in a country where there was a shortage of food I could see this being a genuine issue. As for the Maori thing - shit, get a grip. That's just plain pathetic. Just because one culture doesn't want to do something that does not mean that they have a god given right to dictate to another culture what is acceptable.
    Bear in mind that we are in the early stages of hashing out a unified post-colonial/Maori culture. It is bound to look ridiculous to outsiders, and everybody who fears change to one extent or another (me included). At least we are trying and not assuming that the Colonial Imperialist's culture is the only culture worth having.

    The next 200 years are going to be very interesting. Shame I can't stick around to watch it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim2
    Bear in mind that we are in the early stages of hashing out a unified post-colonial/Maori culture. It is bound to look ridiculous to outsiders, and everybody who fears change to one extent or another (me included). At least we are trying and not assuming that the Colonial Imperialist's culture is the only culture worth having.

    The next 200 years are going to be very interesting. Shame I can't stick around to watch it.
    Oh Jim - why are you (mostly) so logical, level headed and full of common sense ? Did you do a special college/university course?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Biff Baff
    Oh Jim - why are you (mostly) so logical, level headed and full of common sense ? Did you do a special college/university course?
    As we both know, I'm not . I can be the world's biggest F__kwit sometimes.

    It's only since I started doing the M.Comms degree and really looking at other cultures that I opened my mind a little. I think that the propaganda surrounding the issue of "culture" is nearly as creative as the stuff Goebbels came up with.
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    I read some comment by Dr Pita Sharples re 'the culture is reasserting itself' Excuse me?? Like people have nothing to do with it. When will cannabilism reassert itself?
    Do you realise how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim2
    As we both know, I'm not . I can be the world's biggest F__kwit sometimes.
    I thought that was my role....:spudwhat:

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    Maori academic Ranganui Walker said: "Food demands a certain respect. I
    never thought about it when I was young but I guess these days cultural
    things are coming to the fore as Maori culture asserts itself."

    I must have a really warped mind.

    When I read this, the first thing that sprung to mind was a Cartman-like vegetable demanding, "Respect my authoratah!!"
    ... and that's what I think.

    Or summat.


    Or maybe not...

    Dunno really....


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    Quote Originally Posted by MSTRS
    I read some comment by Dr Pita Sharples re 'the culture is reasserting itself' Excuse me?? Like people have nothing to do with it. When will cannabilism reassert itself?
    I know what you mean.

    Though I blame the death of the Rhetoric tradition partly. Maori orators are really good at rhetoric, but we've (Post-Modern Western cultures) forgotten how to analyse and appreciate rhetoric, and we forget that all rhetoric is contextual.

    Pita Sharples is actually a nice guy, but his rhetoric is threatening to the established NZ culture.
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    Oooops - not Pita - was Ranginui.(thanks Vifferman). My sentiment stands tho
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    !!!Land Rights for Gay Whales!!!

    Did anyone see the article in Sunday's paper about the German homosexual penguins?
    Apparently the zoo staff noticed that some of the boy penguins were only interested in other boy penguins and from what I can understand wanted to confirm it somehow through, I dunno, observation or experiments or something.
    Anyway, there has been a big hue and cry from the local homosexual community because they suspect that these nasty oppressive folk are trying to impose their own values on the penguins by converting them back to heterosexuality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by idb
    Apparently the zoo staff noticed that some of the boy penguins were only interested in other boy penguins and from what I can understand wanted to confirm it somehow through, I dunno, observation or experiments or something.
    They'll probably show them a photo of Shaun Connery in a dinner jacket.
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    Plese please please please tell the rest of the joke Mr Scumdog. Put it another thread with a title warning off the PC inclined folk
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    PC Bullshit

    PC - it's a modus operandus that is used by minorities to take the moral, political & judicial high ground. They (the PC Lot) feed the media in this country with opinion and speculation dressed up as fact. Of course the media devour this rubbish because they know it sells well. People will view/buy access to this stuff to just to confirm that there are people/organisations sillier than they are.

    Take the WCC (Waitakere City Council), if you walked into the main foyer with a tree branch snapped it in half, all the staff would need trauma counselling, and a week off work to recover.

    Now the media would report that as destruction of a natural habitat, wanton destruction of a living organism, and it would be reported in the Western Leader as reckless vandalism causing endangerment to others. You would be charged with willful damage, and given community work planting trees.

    By making this visible to the public, and the display of the damage etc etc, makes this saleable as a deterrent to others. Although we thinks it's bloody stupid, it will sell newspapers, because we like to see/hear of other misfortunate one's who a) are now an example for the PC lots cause, its sold some advertising space, and the moral high ground is still intact for the PC's lot.

    Think about it, why does the play/food issue make the headlines, because it is ridiculous, that's why they print and publish it, this will get your attention, and sell advertising.

    In summary it’s protecting you from yourself that’s the engine in the socialist vehicle. It drives the mechanism that churns out all the idiotic notions like the “play dough saga”, and the starting block toilets at Auckland University (where else??) and this empowers the legislative junkies and drives the media wheels into action.

    Colin James’s editorial from the NZ Herald 15/2/2005 clarifies this exactly:

    "It says we now have the nanny state mentality bad. We believe we are entitled to a perfectly safe and perfectly restorative society. No child shall graze its knee in a public playground. No operation in a hospital shall go wrong.

    No amount of bad eating and drinking shall deny us excellent health and doctors shall fix us up for free if we get a twinge. If we go in a bike race and forget we have been told to abide by the road code and we cross the centre line, we must not die. The state should see to it. And if not the state, the courts.

    The state, as a result, is expected to become ever more vigilant and protective and, as a consequence, ever more intrusive.

    And, indeed, the state is doing that. Hence the smoking ban. We cannot look out for ourselves and stay out of smoky places. The smoke must be removed so that we cannot be in a smoky place.

    But the more intrusive the state is in the name of absolute safety, the more it upsets the people it intrudes on.

    That is called by some "political correctness". It is one of the Government's vulnerabilities this election year. In a poll I had done last year 59 per cent thought the Government was too politically correct.

    The Labour Party once was rooted in people who worked for wages and joined unions to battle the bosses. During the 1970s rights-seeking interest groups, notably women, gays and Maori, supplanted unionists as influences in the party.

    Labour's manifestos since have reflected that. Its programme in office since 1999 has reflected it"

    Although Colin James has been a key scribe for Labour since whenever, he has done himself no favours by this expose. The sentiment he refers to in the article is gathering momentum, and could be a factor in the steady climb of National’s poll ratings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rainbow Wizard
    Mate, at their polling they ain't gonna be a problem. I suggest you pull your head out of the instant dismissal sand because I suspect you could make more of a mark by being proactive, regardless of any perceived political associations. I think party politics is crap anyway, they should all be independents (provided their intelligent & educated).
    I used to think along these lines too. Then, when I didn't vote in the local elections and I asked myself why, I realised its because I didn't have clue what any of them stood for and in truth I couldn't be arsed finding out.

    I don't suppose a National Election of independants would be any different.... and without parties, who would form the policies?
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    All independants would have to a)work together finding agreement or b)chaos - as in argue amongst themselves acheiving nothing.

    By the way did you kow that the 'opposition' parties are currently picking on a person in parliament who has an impediment, at least that is what the PM told the media. I guess she wants to have a cross section of society with her to appease everyone. Very PC :-/

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