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    Quote Originally Posted by Blakamin
    political correctness ???

    and Jim2, if your trying to illustrate the history of the Australian flag, try to find a website that DOESN'T want it changed to get it right.....
    Sigh. It's true what they say about the US and Australia developing closer ties -and Australians losing all capability to appreciate a subtle, irony filled joke when it's DROPPED ON THEIR FEKKING HEAD FROM THREE MILES UP.

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    I quite like this one
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitcher
    Fuck I hate it when you've just spent 10 minutes drafting something erudite and witty, inadvertently hit some key sequence to watch it all evaporate into cyberspace.

    Herewith the short version:

    The old flag is a load of toss. It screams "colonial outpost". It looks the same as the Aussie flag (oh yes it does) and every banana republic from Guyana to Graceland.

    Unfortunately the alternatives (so far) look no better. The last thing we need is a flag designed by a committee (otherwise it will get printed in natural, politically correct earth tones on hand-woven GE-free organic hemp by unionised labour...).

    The Canadians were brave enough to ditch theirs in favour of a real stunner that clearly identifies their country. Let's do something similar.

    Let's get rid of that old shite sheet!
    Hear, Hear I agree

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    Yup, the Canadians have a cool flag, it does them quite nicely.
    Anybody got any designs to show off?
    I don't mind the old one, but it does seem a little, 1/2 british... not even the full thing, and not quite our own either....
    Still, I dont know of any better

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    Flag should stay the way it is. Good people have made the ultimate sacrifice for that flag. Also NZ has a colonial history. Always will have. Changing the flag will not change that.

    No one thinks of NZ as a British colony anymore anyway.

    Then again I am a colonial oppressor so my opinion doesn't count. However, I do have a Kiwi passport and have shed blood while serving overseas under that flag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NC30_chick
    I think it's a stupid Idea to change the NZ flag. It's all that activist bullshit again...

    "equal rights" my fat white tattooed arse.
    Exactly!, it's trendy at the moment to talk of canning the current flag and introducing something else, in a supposed attempt to bring about a resurgence of national pride. Personally having a government, with the balls to call a spade a spade would make me far prouder than changing the flag. Today I went for a WOF for the van and the poor guys in the testing station were literally pulling their hair out, apparently anyone can now be failed for a wof for having any unsecured objects in their vehicle, eg my groceries in the back of the van!
    Dear God!, we are not allowed to have the discretionary powers of using common sense any more. This country has gone stark raving bloody mad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blakamin
    If someone wanted this land (or Australia) I'd defend either in a heartbeat... and die if it meant my children could grow up to have everything that I've enjoyed in my short life....
    ....like a this crappy old flag....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slingshot
    The meaning of symbols change over time, just look at the swastika as an example! (and before you ask...I'm not pro nazi!)
    Just a twisted form of that Indian Symbol
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    Lets invert the flag - then ill be happy.
    Just something that doesnt scream "For Queen and Country, we form this prison county"
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    Quote Originally Posted by toads
    Exactly!, it's trendy at the moment to talk of canning the current flag and introducing something else, in a supposed attempt to bring about a resurgence of national pride. Personally having a government, with the balls to call a spade a spade would make me far prouder than changing the flag. Today I went for a WOF for the van and the poor guys in the testing station were literally pulling their hair out, apparently anyone can now be failed for a wof for having any unsecured objects in their vehicle, eg my groceries in the back of the van!
    Dear God!, we are not allowed to have the discretionary powers of using common sense any more. This country has gone stark raving bloody mad.
    Are you serious! That should fuck 99.9% of all vehicles going for warrants then. Cunning plan - if they cant get WOFs then they can't (legally) go on the road - the traffic volumes die away - the road toll comes down. The LTA and gummint are heroes (in their eyes)
    What a pack of tossers they all are!
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    Ok just did it and it looks gay
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    Quote Originally Posted by avgas
    Lets invert the flag - then ill be happy.
    Just something that doesnt scream "For Queen and Country, we form this prison county"
    We were never a Prison colony - where do you get this stuff from??

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    The Kiwi flag is technically referred to as "wank". But as a Brit I'm please to see that you continue to bow to her majesty and my nations flag etc etc and want to be Ozzies so much you even try and copy their flag.

    As a northern hemispherian (I love making up words) I can honestly say that the NZ flag is far from distinctive and says nothing about your country to the rest of the world. Change it I say. Tell the world that you're unique, not a British colony and that you have so much to offer the world.

    As for fighting and dying for your flag, sorry I don't buy that. I don't believe that a single Kiwi has ever fought to keep a piece of colourful material just the way it has been for centuries. They fought for their nation and their beliefs. There's a similar argument going on in the UK at the moment with people saying, "people died for the pound", as an argument for not joining the Euro. No they bloody didn't, they died fighting tyranny and injustice.

    In response to those that have stated that nobody believs that NZ is still part of the British empire - you are sooo very wrong. On numerous occassions I've been in far flung countries of the world and spoken to people that believe Australia and New Zealand are still part of the British empire and some even believe that they're under British rule. All because the union jack is on the Ozzie and Kiwi flags. Factoid.

    But who am I but a whinging pom whose got a bloody cheek coming over here blah blah blah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by avgas
    Ok just did it and it looks gay
    I second that
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    Quote Originally Posted by Biff Baff
    The Kiwi flag is technically referred to as "wank". But as a Brit I'm please to see that you continue to bow to her majesty and my nations flag etc etc and want to be Ozzies so much you even try and copy their flag.

    As a northern hemispherian (I love making up words) I can honestly say that the NZ flag is far from distinctive and says nothing about your country to the rest of the world. Change it I say. Tell the world that you're unique, not a British colony and that you have so much to offer the world.

    As for fighting and dying for your flag, sorry I don't buy that. I don;t believe that a single Kiwi has ever fought to keep a piece of colourfull material the same pretty colours. They fought for their nation and their beliefs.

    In response to those that have stated that nobody believs that NZ is still part of the British empire - you are sooo very wrong. On numerous occassions I've been in far flung countries of the world and spoken to people that believe Australia and New Zealand are still part of the British empire and some even believe that they're under British rule. All because the union jack is on the Ozzie and Kiwi flags. Factoid.

    But who am I but a whinging pom whose got a bloody cheek coming over here blah blah blah.

    Deja vous?
    But it doesn't actually matter. The rest of the world doesn't give a toss about us. Changing it will mean nothing, except to offer the illusion that it will somehow change the "overseas" perception of NZ. I've lived away from NZ for long enough to know that the only stuff that is newsworthy about NZ is a sick sheep joke or an Earthquake, or breaking an obscure EU marketing law that requires the senior UK based NZ Dairy Board management to go to jail for 18 months.

    We have a bunch of issues to resolve before the flag question comes to a head.

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