Cunt Key

[trustme]

Hitler brilliant??...............I don't think so but as an orator.............no ones come close. Skyryder

Unfortunately for the rest of the world he didn't just talk the talk
He walked the walk unlike your beloved Clark
He brought a country out of total financial ruin, he rebuilt an economy, he recreated a country that actually produced something, unfortunately that something was death & destruction
Clark/ Cullen are doing their best to walk us back into financial ruin

Hitler was brilliant but evil
Clark is almost brilliant but misguided.

[fstfzr]

i agree...
the man has been a spineless cock sucker from the start.

but most of you think the govt should own buisness, so stop your bitching when they fuck you over for their own ends

National = just as socialist as labour

Libertarianz

Hate to say this carver but maybe if we had more of those so called spineless cocksuckers in power during the last 9 years they may have taken more notice of you and I on issues such as smacking, tougher sentnceing and the drinking age to name a few, rather than aunties Helen and Bradford making our desisions for us.... phew heavy

[MisterD]

This is what we get with an Attorney General who is not trained in the rule of law. Phil Goff might be very competent but he ain't a legal thinker.

The AG is Cullen...snide, smarmy, pin-striped dwarf that he is.

[trustme]

An AG that is not a lawyer , that is why we have got total fuckups like the electoral finance act & the anti terror law that failed so miserably with Tama & his lot

You need a strong & competent AG to run the rule over legislation & make sure it will actually work . Sullen is not even a lawyer , bang goes the privy council, We are expected to respect the rule of law but this labour administration has devalued the rule of law to a point where no one respects it anymore.

So much damage to be repaired.

[Salival]

Yeah, good man. Once again we were let down by our numbbskull populist media. The Exclusive Brethren are a tiny invisible group among our 4 million kiwis. They have no influence whatsoever.

So - a few of them, about a dozen, decided they wanted to question some political issues. They printed and circulated some pamphlets. That low level and reasonable exercise of freedom of speech created panic and shrieking terror amongst Labour MPs. I don't get it, I really don't.

I'd have thought each and every one of us was guaranteed the right to express our poltical opinions without fear of oppression. Not so - enter the extraordinarily clumsy and plain wrong, Electoral Finance Act. This is what we get with an Attorney General who is not trained in the rule of law. Phil Goff might be very competent but he ain't a legal thinker.

Yep, I wouldn't deny their right to do this. However this isn't really a freedom of speech issue. It was more about what went on at the time with Don Brash lying through his teeth about the whole thing.

It's also worth noting that the Exclusive Brethren (who are genuinely nice people as my grandparents lived next to some when I was a kid) and similar groups have certain tax exemptions on the understanding that they won't interfere in political matters.

I think it was those two things that caused the shit storm - Brash's lying and their tax agreements rather than the pamphlets themselves.

[Winston001]

The AG is Cullen...snide, smarmy, pin-striped dwarf that he is.

Ach a blonde moment My bad. Anyway we all agree about the ignorance of the rule of law.

[MisterD]

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[idb]

Sooo...we need more lawyers in Gummint?
What an odd turn this thread has taken!

[MisterD]

Sooo...we need more lawyers in Gummint?
What an odd turn this thread has taken!

No, just one or two in the right places, otherwise fuck-ups are made which mean more lawyers are needed downstream...

[Winston001]

No, just one or two in the right places, otherwise fuck-ups are made which mean more lawyers are needed downstream...

Yeah......so actually things are fine the way they are...... In fact let's have Trevor Mallard as Attorney General, that would be fun. Or maybe Tariana Turia....

[Winston001]

Sooo...we need more lawyers in Gummint?
What an odd turn this thread has taken!

I'll try to be serious for a moment.

There are some fundamental concepts which underlie the basis of law. The study of them is called jurisprudence and while it's for egg-heads, it actually does matter. You can think of it as our constitution.

Imagine a hospital manager devising a cost-cutting rule regarding a surgical procedure. Lets say, no anesthetic. Ok, well Cullen is like that - he has no conception of greater issues than purely getting what his party wants. Thus we have the Electoral Finance Act which the Law Society (along with plenty of others) told Parliament would not work. Even the Government doesn't understand it.

[Patrick]

So here we are at post #327, 22 pages of political stuff, and not a single person has asked the most important political question...

Is John KEY changing his name to Don after the election?????

[Robert Taylor]

Party vote National, electorate vote National. Get rid of the Labour morons and their loonier left wing friends

[SPman]

Yes, but they are no longer a communist dictatorship, and even though the US does have these wars their economy(ignoring the current fuckup) is booming.

Been there lately? - a large part of the population would not agree with you on that one.....

[Winston001]

Been there lately? - a large part of the population would not agree with you on that one.....

Actually I sometimes wonder about the same question with China, India, Vietnam....the Asian Tigers. There are hundreds of millions of peasants in these countries who still struggle for a daily living, for whom fresh clean water, medicine, and plentiful food is unknown.

The cities aren't much different - at least from what I could see of Mumbai, Delhi, and Agra. Vibrant, extraordinarily busy, industrial, and filled with poverty.