Cunt Key

[Bullitt]

All shit aside ive no idea who the hell to vote for and i find it annoying.

Just remember:
A vote for Labour is a vote for Winston Peters
MP will get more maori seats than their overall % so will be a wasted vote.

So depending on your views your left with
Greens, United, Progressive, National, ACT and some minnows who wont get near Parliament.

[98tls]

Awaiting confirmation Keys is a paid up member of "Stormfront" and will go from there.

[Skyryder]

She knew about the donation saga months ago...

Paintergate and speedgate... just to name a few...

'Bout the only thing correct in your post.

Knowing is not lying. Big difference. As for the other two, been there and done that.





Skyryder

[Dargor]

Dont forget kiwi!

A vote for the kiwi party is a vote for more power.(for us!)

[Manxman]

Oh, and then there was Michael Cullen, the second most important man in NZ politics - behind Helen...two steps behind in fact - who goes on TV to say that the Privileges Committee made the wrong decision.

The fact that this was a democratic decision, made up of politicians of all colours, sent a slight shudder down my spine.

What will he challenge next? The SFO? Ooops, my bad - he's already done that. By refusing to publicly state his confidence in them. Based on what? An anonymous letter, allegedly sent by someone within the SFO. Gee that's really robust and credible, eh?

So, there you have it. An arrogant man who is not prepared to accept a democratic decision, or support an organisation that (currently) exists to detect and investigate serious fraud. Mmmmmm. Slowly, ever so slowly, the foundations and principles on which we were mostly brought up to believe in, are eroded from within.

If Labour are elected this time around, then I'm afraid we will need to adopt the position and kiss our arses goodbye (that's unless one of the Rainbow Room brigade get there first...http://www.stuff.co.nz/4702547a6160.html

[trustme]

'Bout the only thing correct in your post.

Knowing is not lying. Big difference.

Skyryder

What you really mean is you are only dishonest if you get caught

[Skyryder]

Oh, and then there was Michael Cullen, the second most important man in NZ politics - behind Helen...two steps behind in fact - who goes on TV to say that the Privileges Committee made the wrong decision.

The fact that this was a democratic decision, made up of politicians of all colours, sent a slight shudder down my spine.

What will he challenge next? The SFO? Ooops, my bad - he's already done that. By refusing to publicly state his confidence in them. Based on what? An anonymous letter, allegedly sent by someone within the SFO. Gee that's really robust and credible, eh?

So, there you have it. An arrogant man who is not prepared to accept a democratic decision, or support an organisation that (currently) exists to detect and investigate serious fraud. Mmmmmm. Slowly, ever so slowly, the foundations and principles on which we were mostly brought up to believe in, are eroded from within.

If Labour are elected this time around, then I'm afraid we will need to adopt the position and kiss are arses goodbye (that's if one of the Rainbow Room brigade don't get there first...)

Apart from the main party lines the decision was from the Greens the Maori Party and United Future. These three parties chose not to believe Winstone. Now before any one jumps up and down on me just let me say that I'm no fan of Peters and I think there is more on the SFO than meets the eye. This orgaisation is going to be disbanded and it is not unreasable to believe that there may be some hostility from its members towards Labour for this. Cullen may well have grounds to have doubts about it's confidence. I seem to recall that the Nats will retain the SFO so if I am correct on this the SFO impartiality may be in doubt. I agree that this is speculation on my part. This aside all three, the Greens Maori Party and United Future may have cast their vote on the assumption that the Nats are going to ber the next Govt. In short their vote for Winstones guilt may have more to do with their own party positions visa via a coalition with the Nats than an actual belief in Winstones guilt. Another factor to be taken into this is the public perception that Winstone is guilty and their vote accordingly is for this reason so as not to be seen as offering him support in the coming election. Under normal circumsatnces I would accept the findings for what they are worth but with the election just round the corner I 'suspect' that there are other factors that all three have taken when they voted for Winstones guilt.


Skyryder

[trustme]

Who dis Winstone yo talkin bout. Mistake or yo lyin to us Skyryder

[98tls]

Possibly the answer is to withdraw from the electoral roll en-masse citing not an ounce of confidence in any of them.

[Robert Taylor]

Not for long he won't. You think the Nats are going to keep Key if he does win the election. Just sit back and take off the blinkers just for a minute. look at how many goofs he's made. Key is a pleasent face with a snake oil salemans tounge. No more. I'd give Key six months before's he's rolled. Shit it may even happen before he can even form a govt. Keys a light weight and an embarressemnt to the party's dries.

He's fucked up so much do realy think that he will be allowed to fuck up even further and in Govt? Take the blinkers off from Clarke and Labour and just look.

Skyryder

Ok, put it this way. To elect Key is a price well worth paying just to get rid of that ugly conniving bitch.

[Max Preload]

the kicker is that these asswipes pay themselves a fortune to mismanage other people's money!

Only if you let them. In any case it sure beats the current alternative of the government taking $1 from you and returning $0.40 if you're lucky.

[k14]

Well Key knew pretty quickly after he lied. 50000 Key said then changed that to 100,000.

No ums or maybes but 'YEP.'

Skyryder

I've been pondering my opinion on this and that is all it stems down to. I don't see the significance of the numbers in question, 50000/100000 are all pretty much the same in the big picture. He didn't ever say he didn't own shares in tranzrail, he bought them before he got involved in the takeover bid discussions (however small and insignificant they were) and then he sold them after he worked out that he was probably in a "grey" area as far as conflicts of interests go. To add to that he made a $110k loss. He could have tried to keep them quiet and wait for another year to avoid that loss but he took it on the chin cause he knew it was the right thing to do.

This whole saga is indeed a storm in a teacup. It is tvnz pushing its own agenda to keep its bosses happy and hoping the reds keep in office so they can keep on their merry way as they are at the moment.

[idleidolidyll]

Just remember:
A vote for Labour is a vote for Winston

Good grief! You swallowed that trite propaganda?
Both major parties have had Peters in their cabinets and Key would backpedal in a moment if it meant taking power or spending the next three years on the backburner.
The man is a liar and an opportunist.

That said, vote Green or Prpgressive but for ducks sake don't vote right wing: those liars are why your wages are so low today.

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[enigma51]

Ok, put it this way. To elect Key is a price well worth paying just to get rid of that ugly conniving bitch.

You being rude comparing her to a female dog. My bitch sleeps in the house ........... i wouldn't allow helen too sleep in the house

[Pussy]

You being rude comparing her to a female dog. My bitch sleeps in the house ........... i wouldn't allow helen too sleep in the house

I thought RT was being insensitive to female canines as well....