08 cbr600rr suspension setting~

**colinrex** · 22nd September 2008, 23:35

Just got a 08 600rr, got some info from sportbikes about the suspension setting, but feel not good. Does anyone have links for the 08 600rr suspension setting for the track? I am 75KG weihgt.

Thanks~

**HDTboy** · 23rd September 2008, 07:17

How fast are you?
Suspension settings are a very personal thing. What you could do is ring Shaun Harris, or Robert Taylor, ride down to new plymouth and have them set your bike up for YOU, and ride home with a big smile on your dial.

**Robert Taylor** · 23rd September 2008, 08:37

Originally Posted by colinrex

Just got a 08 600rr, got some info from sportbikes about the suspension setting, but feel not good. Does anyone have links for the 08 600rr suspension setting for the track? I am 75KG weihgt.

Thanks~

If you look at either serious Trackday bikes and those being road raced the stock suspension gets ditched for high qualityv aftermarket in short order. Improvement can be effected with adjustments on the standard suspenders but not to a degree that is either going to put a huge smile on your face or to maximise tyre life.
That may be an unpalatable thought that the cure involves money, but it is the reality.

**Shaun** · 23rd September 2008, 09:22

Originally Posted by HDTboy

How fast are you?
Suspension settings are a very personal thing. What you could do is ring Shaun Harris, or Robert Taylor, ride down to new plymouth and have them set your bike up for YOU, and ride home with a big smile on your dial.

Thanks for the promt mate- BUT, I am only doing private work at the moment, untill my New 70m2 Workshop is completed in December in Ingelwood, then I will be working with general customers again, from a sexy well equipt w/shop and apartment for over night customers, or the weekend hangout pit, for dvd's and lots of beer and shit talk

**Ivan** · 23rd September 2008, 18:12

Originally Posted by Shaun

Thanks for the promt mate- BUT, I am only doing private work at the moment, untill my New 70m2 Workshop is completed in December in Ingelwood, then I will be working with general customers again, from a sexy well equipt w/shop and apartment for over night customers, or the weekend hangout pit, for dvd's and lots of beer and shit talk

Beer shit talk and DVDs sounds like I might have to go up to inglewood sounds alot more fun than down the mighty Wairarapa

**colinrex** · 23rd September 2008, 19:30

Thx 4 all mates, and now I can not waiting my holiday that I can riding down to new plymouth!!

Lots of thx!

**discotex** · 26th September 2008, 17:17

Originally Posted by colinrex

Just got a 08 600rr, got some info from sportbikes about the suspension setting, but feel not good. Does anyone have links for the 08 600rr suspension setting for the track? I am 75KG weihgt.

Thanks~

I've got mine stock bar rebound and I'm 75kg. Then again I'm no racer so it suits me fine.

Make sure you keep an eye on your steering head bearings. Few people on 600rr.net have found them loosen badly as well.

I'm now pretty sure it's why I lost the front last trackday.

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...ad.php?t=82397

**Robert Taylor** · 26th September 2008, 19:58

Originally Posted by discotex

I've got mine stock bar rebound and I'm 75kg. Then again I'm no racer so it suits me fine.

Make sure you keep an eye on your steering head bearings. Few people on 600rr.net have found them loosen badly as well.

I'm now pretty sure it's why I lost the front last trackday.

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...ad.php?t=82397

Its one of the biggest misconceptions that you have to be a racer to have good suspension. Good suspension improves the lot of riders of all skill levels, and it would amaze you just how much improvement can be effected.
What can be done with the stock adjusters is in fact very minimal and at extremity of inwards setting the forks will cavitate ( we have the dyno graphs to prove it ). That can often be a factor in losing the front.

**discotex** · 26th September 2008, 21:53

Originally Posted by Robert Taylor

Its one of the biggest misconceptions that you have to be a racer to have good suspension. Good suspension improves the lot of riders of all skill levels, and it would amaze you just how much improvement can be effected.

I'm very tempted to upgrade my suspension as I think I'm starting to get to a level where I'd really notice the difference. What sort of cost is one looking at on an '08 CBR600RR?

I know a lot of people talk about doing the rear shock first. Seems odd as it's the front I'm really worried about getting right (aside from rear tyre life but I'm no tyre shredder anyway).

Originally Posted by Robert Taylor

What can be done with the stock adjusters is in fact very minimal and at extremity of inwards setting the forks will cavitate ( we have the dyno graphs to prove it ). That can often be a factor in losing the front.

Totally with you Robert. That's what I meant by not bothering to play too much with non stock settings.

Am I right in thinking if the steering head bearings are so loose they click under braking that that could seriously compromise traction at knee down lean angles?

**naphazoline** · 4th October 2008, 15:42

Originally Posted by Robert Taylor

If you look at either serious Trackday bikes and those being road raced the stock suspension gets ditched for high qualityv aftermarket in short order. Improvement can be effected with adjustments on the standard suspenders but not to a degree that is either going to put a huge smile on your face or to maximise tyre life.
That may be an unpalatable thought that the cure involves money, but it is the reality.

hi there robert.
can the same be said for an '06 cbr1000rr? (i'm just a road rider,not any sort of racer) i'm 95kg

**Robert Taylor** · 6th October 2008, 10:20

Originally Posted by discotex

I'm very tempted to upgrade my suspension as I think I'm starting to get to a level where I'd really notice the difference. What sort of cost is one looking at on an '08 CBR600RR?

I know a lot of people talk about doing the rear shock first. Seems odd as it's the front I'm really worried about getting right (aside from rear tyre life but I'm no tyre shredder anyway).

Totally with you Robert. That's what I meant by not bothering to play too much with non stock settings.

Am I right in thinking if the steering head bearings are so loose they click under braking that that could seriously compromise traction at knee down lean angles?

Sorry I missed this in my general busy madness.

Indeed the front end can be improved dramatically. We replace the standard fork springs with linear wind in the appropriate rate for your personal stats and ally that with Race Techs new ''high frequency response'' rebound piston that employs bending shim stack midvalve technology, but also has rebound ports that are very well sized so as not to require too much compensation with the rebound shim stack calibration. This all but eliminates the very real lag in damping response that you get with the more regular checkplate midvalve system and in real terms that means you can brake later into corners, the setting can actually be softer because you are not compensating for damping response lag etc etc. We also combine with Race Tech base compression pistons that allow much more compliance over the nasty bumps that our roads and tracks often dish up. All up this rework greatly enhances chassis stability, improves tyre life and gives you a lot more confidence to ''push'' the front.
With respect to the rear the twin tube shocks that Ohlins make ( TTX36 ) rely a whole lot less on shaft displacement than the standard rear shock and in fact all other aftermarket options. In pretty much the same vein as the fork mods ( in fact even more so ) there is virtually instant damping response, that allows ''softer'' calibration of settings giving more sidegrip and a lot more rider feel / confidence. Ohlins other big ''secret'' is that they employ top out springs inside their shocks. At the top of stroke ( full extended ) the internal top out spring counteracts the preloaded force of the main spring giving more response and also allowing more rear end stability under braking. We have tested this very recently with a 600 Supersport team at Philip Island, we removed the internal top out springs and within short order the riders asked for them to be refitted.
Replacement with one of these shocks gives a dramatic improvement that frankly you would be blown away with. If you look at the numbers of these in NZ road racing that tells a story in itself, they work just as well on road. ( PM us for pricing )
As Paul Thede from Race Tech has famously said ''the best youve ridden is the best you know''
Headrace bearings, sure worn and maladjusted headrace bearings are going to slow you down and dramtically reduce your confidence, irrespective of whether you have oem or well fettled aftermarket suspension. But its a no brainer which package is going to work better ( apples for apples ) if your bearings are servicable and adjusted properly.