Everyone has an opinion whats yours. Hyosung?

[slimjim]

aye..ya's pay acc levis...so its a bike...

[vtec]

I think the Hydrobag name has been badly affected by some of the tossers who ride them.

Tossers ride all kinds of bikes (especially Harleys). Hyosungs in reality, are heavy and the 250 is definitely underpowered. Also, I'm concerned about some of the design flaws and underengineering which have gone into systems such as the braking and suspension. The benefits, they are cheap, reliable enough, look alright (if you don't know what it is).

Mostly by people who have never ridden one. Probably for the same reason that Honda riders are allegedly "gay" and why Harley riders allegedly never wave back.

Harley riders are snobs pretending to be tough wank wank. Nobody with real engineering knowledge or passion about motorcycle design and performance buys a Harley. It's all about image, just like Emo's and Goth's. Put them on a real sports bike and most of them will crap their pants and not have a patch on any of the racers.

Honda riders are "gay" because they are really common, and always take the middle ground and are effectively "boring" because they are so reliable and neutral. And because other bike brand owners feel that because they are less common their bikes are somehow better and have more "personality". I like a "boring"/predictable bike, because in my case the rider makes enough crazy without the bike adding to it.

Hyosungs are the new "Honda" though because they are now the most common, except without the engineering excellence. So Hyosungs are the new "gay" motorbikes... sorry.

But I suppose it's a long running joke that the Honda fleet are "gay" right back from the Bruce and Darryl era. It's never going to go away hehe. I'm sure they were the main proponents of Honda = gay.

[rphenix]

Mostly by people who have never ridden one. Probably for the same reason that Honda riders are allegedly "gay" and why Harley riders allegedly never wave back.

Well put and my sentiments exactly.

[NOMIS]

my honda aint gay,..

my hornets the shit..... and what,

[FJRider]

I think the Hydrobag name has been badly affected by some of the tossers who ride them.

Most motorcycle brand names, have "inflictions" imposed on their owners, due to percieved, or actual, problems during ownership of said brands. Never let truth stand in the way of a good bike bashing session...

[vtec]

You want truth? You can't handle the truth.

Truth is the 250 has faulty brake master cylinders.
Truth is the Rear shock is extremely poor and often fails
Truth is the front forks are extremely soft and apparently prone to seal leaks
Truth is the front brake levers when set on 6 can jump to setting one which could bring the lever back to the handle bar during hard braking.
Truth is when you drop them even standing still they can be written off
Truth is even at just about stationary speeds when dropped the handlebars and levers have a propensity to brake off
Truth is they are heavy and made of steel instead of aluminium
Truth is the CDi has faults which often causes it to need replacing
Truth is the Kawasaki GPX250 which was designed as a commuter in the 1980's is a better bike on many levels

Now for the positives.
Cheap
Relatively pretty if you like the angular look
They do sound nice
And I'm pretty sure they are cheap on gas
Good if you are a big dude who just wants to take it easy


In comparison my 19 year old CBR250RR's when dropped at speed often is still perfectly rideable straight afterwards.
The brakes are awesome
The suspension is average to middling
The power is far superior
It turns on a dime
I think it's prettier
It's definitely smaller lighter and more nimble
somehow it's really comfortable and has quite an upright sitting position for cruising but is equally at home on the race track vs the 400's.
The engines seem indestructable for something that revs to 18-19,000rpm and cruises at 10,000rpm, despite their age.
At $5g for a good one second hand, it's cheaper than the Hyo, and you'll be able to get more k's out of it aswell.

And second hand parts are easy to come by as heaps of squids have smashed them up proper.


All of the above relates to posts about the Hyosung 250, the 650 may be of better quality.

[slofox]

Why do bikers have to be so fucking tribal about their bikes?

Ahhhhhhh..."cognitive dissonance theory" explains this parsnicular point.
Once a person buys something, they tend to develop nagging doubts as to their choice, so they work real hard to convince themselves that they have indeed bought the best, not a dog. They do this by working to convince everyone else to buy as they did. This way, they belong to the "best" crowd and therefore they have the "best" bike (or whatever) which assuages those nagging doubts.
Great theory that and I do believe it has some accuracy in real life in so far as it describes what a lot of people do, in fact, do......

[NOMIS]

Ahhhhhhh..."cognitive dissonance theory" explains this parsnicular point.
Once a person buys something, they tend to develop nagging doubts as to their choice, so they work real hard to convince themselves that they have indeed bought the best, not a dog. They do this by working to convince everyone else to buy as they did. This way, they belong to the "best" crowd and therefore they have the "best" bike (or whatever) which assuages those nagging doubts.
Great theory that and I do believe it has some accuracy in real life in so far as it describes what a lot of people do, in fact, do......

pffft not street fighter riders, well ones who fighter bikes because they crashed them arnt included....

I dont think there many bikes i would be totally satisfied with from factory there are a few however..

I don't like hearing hey man where you get that headlight from I want to do that to my hornet. lol whyyyyy then there would be 2 of us. :-) reason I modded my bike is to make it diff from everyones elses . and I havnt seen another one similar in this country..... yet.

[firefighter]

You want truth? You can't handle the truth.
In comparison my 19 year old CBR250RR's when dropped at speed often is still perfectly rideable straight afterwards.
The brakes are awesome
The suspension is average to middling
The power is far superior
It turns on a dime
I think it's prettier
At $5g for a good one second hand, it's cheaper than the Hyo, and you'll be able to get more k's out of it aswell.

wow a straight bike aftrewards?! I'd rather it fall to bits so no-one ends up buying a bike that's been fucked up in a wreck........and claim the insurance.

Wow, 5 G for a 20 YEAR OLD BIKE!!!! I think i'd rather have a nice brand new one for $1000 bucks more.......or a second hand one 18-20 years younger for about the same price as that, and yeah my first bike is from that era by the way...

And how could you possibly know you'll get more kms out of a 20 year old bike?which probably has already done 50k? (the bikes are still new)

[firefighter]

Honda riders are "gay" because they are really common, and always take the middle ground and are effectively "boring" because they are so reliable and neutral. And because other bike brand owners feel that because they are less common their bikes are somehow better and have more "personality". I like a "boring"/predictable bike, because in my case the rider makes enough crazy without the bike adding to it.

Erm, gays are known to generally have crazy personalities- and un-predictable, so that blows the honda right out of your argument.......maybe a kawasaki would suit your argument better there dude!

[jrandom]

Nobody with real engineering knowledge or passion about motorcycle design and performance buys a Harley. It's all about image, just like Emo's and Goth's.

But, that's just not true. Harleys of the last decade are built very well, and are lovely bikes to ride. Expensive, to be sure, but not all of them are - how about the new XR1200 at $16K RRP, eh? Fookin drool!

That said, I rode a 1340 a few months back which saw fit, after an hour or two of 'moderate pace' two up, to piss a fine mist of hot oil all over my legs, the exhaust, the frame, etc.

Put them on a real sports bike and most of them will crap their pants and not have a patch on any of the racers.

Oh, come on. Most sport bike riders don't have a patch on any of the racers. I'd venture to suggest that the proportion of HD riders who 'can ride' and the proportion of sprotbike pilots who 'can ride' are about the same.

[OutForADuck]

Hey Congrats on getting the bike.

Not long ago I was lent a Hyosung 250 to do a "quick" tour along with a T675. As a result of the size difference the little Hyosung spent the entire 14 hour trip with the throttle at the stop and except where the mountains were just too challenging it managed to sit at 80mph and all this two up .

It reminded me of bikes from the 80's with cheaper suspension and some handling gripes, but with the price tag it carries, a damn good little budget bike. You'll have a lot of fun and burn a lot less money than some of us

[Rev DJ]

Ahhhhhhh..."cognitive dissonance theory" explains this parsnicular point.

Now you are making my brain hurt - its Friday for gods sake!!!!

Like my GT-R though!! DJ

[gw555]

it's cheaper than the Hyo, and you'll be able to get more k's out of it aswell.

And how many ks is that???????

[vtec]

Well I bought a crashed up one for parts with over 100,000k's for $1000, that was including being raced by a bloody maniac called HDTBoy. And I sold the engine for about $300, I sold the forks for $300, and the wheels and tyres and discs for $500. So I ran that at a profit and had lots of spare pieces left over.

wow a straight bike aftrewards?! I'd rather it fall to bits so no-one ends up buying a bike that's been fucked up in a wreck........and claim the insurance.

No insurance on the race track. Plus insurance is run at a large profit. I prefer to self insure so no bastard profits off me. I don't generally crash on the road. In general when you do have an off on the road, it's just a drop at low speeds in the wet on a roundabout or something... and you're happy that Hyosung's making disposables? That's a big part of what's wrong with the world at the moment.

I've crashed CBR250RR's really quite badly, and yes I got taken out by a guy on a Ducati 900 in a warmup lap (he swung onto me in a corner) and the bike was carwheeling and lost all it's fairings and broke handlebars off and twisted the front forks in their triple clamps. Missed the rest of that race, but got it back to the pits and managed to borrow parts off RoadRash's CBR250RR to get it going again albeit naked, and I WON the following streetstock races on it. Bought some new fairings and rearsets and bars, raced another season on it, and won a VMCC championship on that bike. They crash awesome. I think I've crashed at least 5 times on CBR250RRs. Only broken bars once. and only slightly bent the rearsets. Had to loosen the triple clamps to twist the forks back into position.

Last time I raced at Philip Island I won the first race then crashed in the second, broke off the front brake lever and nobody had any spares. So I had to sit it out. My next race is at Winton on the 12th of October. I've never been to that track before, and I don't do practice days anymore, so I'll be trying to find my way around there and win at the same time too.

Maybe it's a Honda thing I crashed my CBR600RR race bike quite bad (including a highside) and it was still all good. That 600 had crashed at least 5 times that I know of.

The number of times HDTBoy crashed his CBR400RR it wasn't funny, still sold it to another racer. Was so ugly though.