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    Quote Originally Posted by Quasievil View Post
    Thats ACT isnt it, and 3 strikes and youre in prison ?
    And Labours is four strikes and a night with Helen.........
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swoop View Post
    Quite!

    * A moratorium on all new prison construction except for the purposes of replacement.
    (Huh? With an increasing population we will eventually need new prisons, or is prison overcrowding acceptable?)
    * Establish 'family houses' for pregnant women and mothers in prison...

    Transport:
    * Encourage freight to be shifted off roads and onto rail...
    (Convenient, since their coalition partner has just bought an expensive trainset)
    * Encourage the development of hybrid sea vessels (eg wind...)
    (I believe there is already such a thing, called "a Yacht".)
    * End the tax exemption on diesel, so diesel users pay their fair share of social and environmental costs.
    (Creating a huge increase in inflation and living costs associated with distribution of food and consumer commodities.)
    * Oppose plans to fast-track roading projects through the Resource Management Act.
    (We simply cannot have the lesser green-backed, lesbian, whale toad-lizard inconvenienced at the expense of bloated beauracracy.)
    Energy:
    * Introducing a carbon charge on fossil fuels.
    (Yep. Gotta have a bit of flagellation to appease the concience.)
    * The Green Party will:
    Redesign the Electricity Commission as a Sustainable Energy Commission with regulatory responsibility for all fuels.
    (Seriously? )

    That was quite scary, looking at a few policies they have. Thank goodness they are not in a position to "govern alone" politically!
    LMAO...but you forgot the bit about totally and comprehensively screwing the economy up in less than five and a half minutes (or maybe two and a half, after today's revelations that Mr Cullen has already done at least half the job already).

    Keep the feckers well away from government.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swoop View Post
    * End the tax exemption on diesel, so diesel users pay their fair share of social and environmental costs.
    (.
    (Seriously? )
    That alone is proof they are nutso.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tank View Post
    Indeed.

    I feel VERY strongly about this

    Unfortuantley a old childhood friend of mine raped and killed his 7yo neighbour when we were younger.

    He got out of jail / Hospital a few years later having been released on the gounds of 'mental instability' (or whatever the correct term is).

    A few years later he 'snapped' again and killed a 81 YO lady.

    I've always thought if he did'nt get released that poor old lady would not have been murdered.

    I dont believe that anyone who kills deserves a second chance.
    And why burden the taxpayer in keeping them when hanging would solve that issue......

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    Quote Originally Posted by SPman View Post
    And Labours is four strikes and a night with Helen.........
    I'll take the lethal injection , Your Honour....please...

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    Im actually quite surprised National has taken that stance, although I did not doubt they wern't going to say they'd get tough.

    There shouldnt be any such word as "repeat violent offender"

    I also hope victims rights and needs are recognised and represented within certain agencies.

    Somebody here asked how compensation could make families better, it wont change a thing except to help people at a time when motivation is at an all time low.

    Victims, survivors and families directly involved (especially if there is a trauma attached to the grief) find it impossible to concentrate on work, but go involuntarily half heartedly because they have to try to pay the bills, perhaps they've lost the provider, lost the house because there was no will or life insurance.
    Alot leaving or loosing their jobs because they neither have the motivation or cannot function normally. It does not just stop at a funeral and go back to normal.
    Some people loose everything, maybe they could be provided with a leg up financially to get through the hard times, and go on.

    Murder has expensive consequences (emotionally and financially) to some survivors and some of those left behind.

    Victims, Survivors and those left behind all casualties in a "war" that the govt has been too soft to fight, and theyve had 9 years to try.

    I will donate my tax cut gladly to abolish parole for repeats, since the sneaky labour party have left us no way to pay for such a consequence..I pity the poor bastard that takes this ship over
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitcher View Post
    I believe that a role of our prison system is to rehabilitate people to live a crime-free life on their release. This includes a parole system that is properly resourced to to do what parole services are supposed to do.
    Fundamental difference in opinion right there.

    Let those who commit petty crimes do the community based sentences, and get tax payer funded education and rehabilitation. Those who step further and commit more serious crimes deserve punishment, not a free ride.

    Prison should not be about rehabilitation for serious offenders, but about punishment and suffering. Bring back hard labour on bread and water, bring back being chained up in dank dungeons. Make prison hell on earth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SlashWylde View Post
    Well since you mention it I'm genuinely interested to know how you all think they come accross in the media, so do tell.

    I actually think one of the greatest problems they have in getting any traction with the public is overcoming the common misconception that they are all "A bunch of tree-hugging hippes who think every thing can be fixed with a cup of organic tea and a hug".
    To me they come across as a disparate group of tree hugging hippies, NORML rejects, and "head in the clouds" intellectuals who need a good dose of reality.

    I'm not opposed to environmentalism as long as it doesn’t inconvenience humanity too much, but pretty much all their social policies make me want to have them, their families, and all their genetic material shot off into the sun for the good of the gene pool.

    And as for Sue Bradford, the most painful slow death you can imagine is too good for that bitch.
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    kill 'em
    kill 'em all

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    Most psychiatrists/criminologists now believe that there is no treatment that will cure psychopaths and that keeping them away from others is the only way to keep people safe.

    Why waste time and money, and risk our lives, for those that are truly dangerous and violent criminals? Either execute them if there is indisputable proof/and or confessions of their crimes or lock them up forever. If that monster Burton had been locked away for LIFE, more people would not have died. How many times do you get to kill before you lose your freedom for ever? The victims have no rights when they are dead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pixie View Post
    kill 'em
    kill 'em all
    Yeah, and make it a pay per view event and give the money to the victims families.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alanzs View Post
    Most psychiatrists/criminologists now believe that there is no treatment that will cure psychopaths and that keeping them away from others is the only way to keep people safe.

    Why waste time and money, and risk our lives, for those that are truly dangerous and violent criminals? Either execute them if there is indisputable proof/and or confessions of their crimes or lock them up forever. If that monster Burton had been locked away for LIFE, more people would not have died. How many times do you get to kill before you lose your freedom for ever? The victims have no rights when they are dead.
    For incontestable murder convictions? - Death.

    For those who don't want that? - pay an extra tax (over and above us pro-death red-neck savages) to keep the buggers alive, I sure as hell don't want my taxes going to fund the continued existence of an oxygen-robbing homicidal twat who is of no earthly benefit to society.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scumdog View Post
    For incontestable murder convictions? - Death.

    For those who don't want that? - pay an extra tax (over and above us pro-death red-neck savages) to keep the buggers alive, I sure as hell don't want my taxes going to fund the continued existence of an oxygen-robbing homicidal twat who is of no earthly benefit to society.
    I'll vote for that! Scumdog for Justice Minister, lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by cs363 View Post
    I'll vote for that! Scumdog for Justice Minister, lol

    Ditto! The sooner you're in the job, Scummy, the better!
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    ANOTHER reason I'm voting Nats this election. It's about time someone started making sense about crime & punishment. I still support the boot camp idea for teenagers that are going off the rails.
    I figure car drivers must be Apes. All they do is sit in cages all day & grunt

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